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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:03 am
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Ev5Magpies wrote:
His social media of late has shown him in the gym the last few weeks. Could be a sign they are aware of whats coming... Who knows!

Don't get me started about social media. Wink
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BazBoy wrote:
What if he came back Round 23 ,played a blinder then pinged a hammy

It would pretty much be par for the course...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:44 am
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^Most likely to happen in training, where we do our best work.
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I'm sure the gutter rat masquerading as a journo slobbo knows and is waiting till either week one of the finals or what could be a do or die clash against the drug cheats in round 23.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 12:28 pm
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Comes into our finals team and wins the Norm Smith, JT second followed by Keeffe and Madgen.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 12:40 pm
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SteveH67 wrote:
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I have heard nothing about what's happened with this bloke.

Was he suspended or not?

Never was AFAIK.
It's outrageous, I don't know why the club doesn't just play him.
WTF do these arrogant pricks think they are, refusing to process this case in a timely manner? it's extremely unprofessional and unfair, it's not like he was taking mountains of steroids or something.


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bokka wrote:
SteveH67 wrote:
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I have heard nothing about what's happened with this bloke.

Was he suspended or not?

Never was ASAIK.
It's outrageous, I don't know why the club doesn't just play him.
WTF do these arrogant pricks think they are, refusing to process this case in a timely manner? it's extremely unprofessional and unfair, it's not like he was taking mountains of steroids or something.


Because suspension will start from the last game he played.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 6:24 pm
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Bucks5 wrote:
It wouldn't surprise me if Collingwood knew the result and are keeping it secret to protect the brand.


If you use the latest case as an example, Collingwood may well know the result but they can't announce it unless any or all of ASADA, Murray and the AFL give the go ahead.

I'll be highly surprised if there isn't a negotiated outcome at the bottom of all of this

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:17 am
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makri wrote:
bokka wrote:
SteveH67 wrote:
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I have heard nothing about what's happened with this bloke.

Was he suspended or not?

Never was ASAIK.
It's outrageous, I don't know why the club doesn't just play him.
WTF do these arrogant pricks think they are, refusing to process this case in a timely manner? it's extremely unprofessional and unfair, it's not like he was taking mountains of steroids or something.


Because suspension will start from the last game he played.

Until there's an actual verdict and sentence there shouldn't be any "virtual" suspension.
Innocent until proven guilty and ASADA has a responsibility to assess the case in a timely fashion. OR at least there shoudl be a defined time limit for a virtual suspension like this. I think it should not be more than 6 months, you are playing with people's lives here and it's also unfairly compromising the whoel team, club and also supporters. For example if he haed already got a 4 year ban last season, he coudl have been delisted, we would have potnetially had one more recruit on the list and it's very possible that recruit could make a difference in our current crisis.
Now after one year it's laughable, he definitely shoudl be able to resume playing until they deilver a verdict. If they rule 2 year suspension then his remaining 1 year would start immediately.
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Collingwood defender Sam Murray is likely to finally have his AFL anti-doping hearing before the finals, over a year after he tested positive for cocaine.

Murray has been waiting since after a match-day test taken following last year’s Round 19 game against Richmond. He accepted a provisional sentence at the time, with the maximum ban being four years.

But on Fox Sports News on Tuesday night, Herald Sun reporter Jon Ralph said the Magpie is expected to leave his state of limbo in the coming weeks.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2019-collingwoods-sam-murray-likely-to-have-his-antidoping-hearing-for-cocaine-before-the-finals/news-story/0282023f5018d57da9f14052ce71b1b3
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:53 pm
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Think ASADA need an A and B test for their own performance re the speed they nabbed Shayna Jack on
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Maybe next time AFL clubs don’t accept a provisional suspension and players play on until found guilty maybe then ASADA will pull their finger out of their arses.
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Think ASADA need an A and B test for their own performance re the speed they nabbed Shayna Jack on


Indeed. Murray will be ineligible for the Australian Womens Swimming Relay.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:33 am
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Apparently he's still being paid while on this provisional suspension, whereas if/once actually suspended, he can't be paid.

I wonder if that has anything to do with the delay?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:57 am
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^ Either way, looks like we can put to bed any hope of him returning for the finals (not that that ever seemed remotely possible). The article suggests round 21 next year will be his aim. Still a long way away, and hard to imagine a player in his situation (i.e. not having played for two years and no VFL) breaking into the side so late in the year. The fact that that would be the more "lenient" sentence is just ridiculous – hell, even four years for one-off deliberate doping is pretty steep – and a sign that ASADA have really lost the plot with this stuff.
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