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jackcass 
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| Good luck to them both. Thought Mooney still had a future. |
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Big T
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Agree with rudey. Stop wasting money on overseas blue sky projects and tap into the players who can jump the highest, run the fastest, have x factor, potential cult hero status for club membership, and put money back into our rural communities. Our people.
Rudeboy, have U ever discussed this with the league or club?
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mandy 
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Add Yagmoor to the list.
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| watt price tully wrote: | Good luck to both of them.
Coming half way 'round the world to play with the Magpies well done lads.
Thanks for playing for Collingwood.
I thought Mooney had the ability to play. Nonetheless. Clarke lost out when he returned to Ireland & the game developed much faster than he did. He was already on the slide here. A poor call by Buckley at the time I thought. |
I agree with WPT's good wishes and thanks to Marty and Caolin but I don't think that we have the full story on Marty. In his first stint at Collingwood, one of his strengths was his pace. That should have stood him in good stead when he came back even though the game had changed. But in fact Marty had lost a lot of his pace while back in Ireland and despite at least one full preseason he never got it back. Did Marty pick up one or more serious injuries while back in Ireland? If he did, were Hine and Buckley aware of it? I find the difference between Marty in 2008 and Marty in 2013 immense and it has never been explained satisfactorily.
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| Bit surprised about yagmoor. I wrote him off completely in mid 2013 but he seemed to be developing quite well, since. Best wishes to him for the future. |
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35forever
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Both guys put in week in week out in the Magoos but just couldn't get a call up. Marty was very unlucky, I would've picked him over Dasher Young several times, and Mooney's speed was exactly what our senior side was missing. Why didn't he get a senior shot this year? Each time Buckley had the chance to bring in someone different he opted for the same guys over & over. The gutless match committee was one of the primary reasons for our shock season. After each flogging they picked one scapegoat to drop, like it was their fault, just one of the many reasons Buckley doesn't have the guys behind him,
I hate de-listing time.
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watt price tully 
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I thought Yags was developing "nicely" & became a reliable player in the 2's. Shame.
Thanks Yag's. Good luck for your future.
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selkevh
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| watt price tully wrote: | I thought Yags was developing "nicely" & became a reliable player in the 2's. Shame.
Thanks Yag's. Good luck for your future. |
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I think Mooney should have been kept, along with Yagmoor. Clarke wasn't up to it anymore unfortuantely. I agree that Buckley could have given Mooney a go upstairs when we had a stagnant forward line.
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| RudeBoy wrote: | | With the failure of so many overseas experiments, it's a pity the AFL doesn't develop a special rookie type draft for Aboriginal players from remote communities. There are some amazing football talents already in Australia's backyard who are highly skilled and intuitive players. Sure, clubs would need to develop specialist programs to assist these young men transition to the demands of professional football, but even if one in ten succeeded, I'm sure they would have an amazing impact on the game bringing excitement and flair to what is fast becoming an overly structured and predictable game. Given the hundreds of millions of dollars invested in the game, it's a shame that hardly any is used to open up pathways for these brilliantly talented young Australians. Remember Liam Jurrah who came down to Melbourne from the desert alone to play for Collingwood. He ended up at Melbourne which was a club in disarray which contributed to his tragic downfall. However, for 2 years Liam was just about the most exciting player in the AFL. With the right environment, at a quality club with great support structures in place, there is no reason why some of these incredibly talented players can't have a similar impact. One day I'd love to see our club lead the way in this area. After all, we are the peoples club, born out of adversity and a marginalised and downtrodden community, much like many remote Aboriginal communities. Come on Collingwood, lead the way! |
Great post
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I take it no more delistings?
Given that Hudson, Maxwell, Lynch & Ball have retired & Clarke from the senior list (or was Hudson a rookie?).
Rookies delisted then are Mooney & Yagmoor.
So 4 senior listed players gone as well as 2 rookies & 1 international rookie also departing.
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| 35forever wrote: | Both guys put in week in week out in the Magoos but just couldn't get a call up. Marty was very unlucky, I would've picked him over Dasher Young several times, and Mooney's speed was exactly what our senior side was missing. Why didn't he get a senior shot this year? Each time Buckley had the chance to bring in someone different he opted for the same guys over & over. The gutless match committee was one of the primary reasons for our shock season. After each flogging they picked one scapegoat to drop, like it was their fault, just one of the many reasons Buckley doesn't have the guys behind him,
I hate de-listing time. |
Is it physically possible for you to post without turning it into a whinge/diatribe against Buckley.
If you'd bothered to go to a reserves game you'd have seen both Clarke and Mooney's form was ordinary and didn't remotely warrant senior selection (Martin and Kennedy on the other hand...)
Get off your fukking high horse once in a while and go watch the boys at VFL level and it might open your eyes a bit on why certain players do and don't deserve a game. |
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The Prototype 
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| 3rd degree wrote: | | I think Mooney should have been kept, along with Yagmoor. Clarke wasn't up to it anymore unfortuantely. I agree that Buckley could have given Mooney a go upstairs when we had a stagnant forward line. |
Reading some posts from people that know Mooney seems he decided it was time to head back to Ireland. So I guess it was his decision rather than the clubs.
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| selkevh wrote: | | RudeBoy wrote: | | With the failure of so many overseas experiments, it's a pity the AFL doesn't develop a special rookie type draft for Aboriginal players from remote communities. There are some amazing football talents already in Australia's backyard who are highly skilled and intuitive players. Sure, clubs would need to develop specialist programs to assist these young men transition to the demands of professional football, but even if one in ten succeeded, I'm sure they would have an amazing impact on the game bringing excitement and flair to what is fast becoming an overly structured and predictable game. Given the hundreds of millions of dollars invested in the game, it's a shame that hardly any is used to open up pathways for these brilliantly talented young Australians. Remember Liam Jurrah who came down to Melbourne from the desert alone to play for Collingwood. He ended up at Melbourne which was a club in disarray which contributed to his tragic downfall. However, for 2 years Liam was just about the most exciting player in the AFL. With the right environment, at a quality club with great support structures in place, there is no reason why some of these incredibly talented players can't have a similar impact. One day I'd love to see our club lead the way in this area. After all, we are the peoples club, born out of adversity and a marginalised and downtrodden community, much like many remote Aboriginal communities. Come on Collingwood, lead the way! |
Great post |
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Is there anyway this idea can be presented to the powers that be at the club? |
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jackcass
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
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| Big T wrote: | Agree with rudey. Stop wasting money on overseas blue sky projects and tap into the players who can jump the highest, run the fastest, have x factor, potential cult hero status for club membership, and put money back into our rural communities. Our people.
Rudeboy, have U ever discussed this with the league or club? |
Need to change the system then. O/S guys outside the senior/rookie list so minimal risk, indigenous guys currently need to be added to the senior/rookie list so much greater risk. |
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