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think positive 
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I know who was seated at the right hand of the Lord,
But why in politics is there a left and a right?
Is it a table placement thing?
And before anyone calls me stupid, remember there is no such thing as a stupid question! 
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stui magpie 
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Left wingers are all socialist, communist, tree hugging, wealth hating, jealous, petty thugs.
Right wingers are elitist, selfish, money loving, manipulative, greedy, callous, racist, sexist thugs.
That make it clearer?
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watt price tully 
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| stui magpie wrote: | Left wingers are all socialist, communist, tree hugging, wealth hating, jealous, petty thugs.
Right wingers are elitist, selfish, money loving, manipulative, greedy, callous, racist, sexist thugs.
That make it clearer?
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Are you looking at the front of them or from behind them? 
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stui magpie
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Does it matter?
To answer your question though Jo, stupidly enough it does apparently originate from a seating arrangement.
http://ask.yahoo.com/20011217.html
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watt price tully
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| think positive wrote: | I know who was seated at the right hand of the Lord,
But why in politics is there a left and a right?
Is it a table placement thing?
And before anyone calls me stupid, remember there is no such thing as a stupid question! |
The following is a very funny set of definitions that most of us of heard of - not intellectually satisfying for an answer to your question but IMO very funny:
www.extremelysmart.com/humor/cowsexplain.php
I love the various national corporations definitions & the surreal defintion
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Jezza 
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As I've been told by others, the term 'left' and 'right' also known as 'left wing' and 'right wing' is very subjective. Usually people are aligned to one side more than the other but some are in the middle for both.
Personally I align to the centre-right the most but some left-wing ideas seem ok as well.
In Australian politics, the left and right is kind of hard to distinguish a little bit. The Labor Party proclaims to be centre-left but it has quite a lot of social conservative ideas like the Liberal Party. The Greens however are what we describe as being far-left, just like the One Nation under Pauline Hanson was far-right.
The way to look at it is, both sides try to achieve the same thing but in a different manner.
Now this is only speaking typically and does not represent all those who align themselves as being left wing or right wing.
Your typical left-wing is for more government intervention, appeals to the public system more than the private system and they tend to be working-class citizens. Your typical right-winger tends to be conservative on social ideas like gay-marriage, abortion and euthanasia which means they're not for it and they tend to dislike government intervention and have to pay more tax. These kinds of people are middle-class and upper-class citizens.
However in saying this I would like to reiterate this is very much a broad statement and it varies from person to person.
In Australia the Greens are far-left, Labor are centre-left, Liberal are centre-right. The best position to be in is either centre-left or centre-right as they are not extreme.
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What's right?
Usually me |
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David
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| think positive wrote: | | I know who was seated at the right hand of the Lord |
Lady Chatterley? :/
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| think positive wrote: |
Is it a table placement thing?
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^^i like that.
it all about table ettiquette.
I imagine the idea is to be close enough to the door so you can arrive just the 1st course is being served and the easiest chair to duck-out before some-one askes you an awkward Q like.."so your helping with the dishes, or worse yet get stuck with the bill.
They take the turkey and the chicken and occassional they hav a beef which we down the table means we don't get any.
It's called "the trickle down the table effect.
both parties hav this in first out first approach to table etiquette so i really wouldn't know how to vote on witch side of the table i sit on.
......but one side wants to save trees, wind-turbines and Eagles. Occassionally they even look down the table and ask if everyones had enough to eat.
I know they don't really mean it, but it's better than the alternative.
sitting so far far down the table the Greens actually look appatizing.
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Dragme
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Looking at all the rants by certain posters of late I was thinking the same thing. Is there such a thing as people that hang left or right. People that follow some political mantra that runs their lives.
Is it kind of like star signs? I am a Virgo, so I am supposed to be pure and virginal, neat and forever in pursuit of some ideology that makes me so similar to other people that are born in August/September.
I usually refuse to label myself and others along any sort of bullshit definitions. I prefer to meet people and work out if I like them or not.
It is too difficult and will use up too many of my brain cells to try and label you guys based on if you hang left or right.
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| I believe in it. How do you usually meet people? |
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Kingswood
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| Jezza wrote: | As I've been told by others, the term 'left' and 'right' also known as 'left wing' and 'right wing' is very subjective. Usually people are aligned to one side more than the other but some are in the middle for both.
Personally I align to the centre-right the most but some left-wing ideas seem ok as well.
In Australian politics, the left and right is kind of hard to distinguish a little bit. The Labor Party proclaims to be centre-left but it has quite a lot of social conservative ideas like the Liberal Party. The Greens however are what we describe as being far-left, just like the One Nation under Pauline Hanson was far-right.
The way to look at it is, both sides try to achieve the same thing but in a different manner.
Now this is only speaking typically and does not represent all those who align themselves as being left wing or right wing.
Your typical left-wing is for more government intervention, appeals to the public system more than the private system and they tend to be working-class citizens. Your typical right-winger tends to be conservative on social ideas like gay-marriage, abortion and euthanasia which means they're not for it and they tend to dislike government intervention and have to pay more tax. These kinds of people are middle-class and upper-class citizens.
However in saying this I would like to reiterate this is very much a broad statement and it varies from person to person.
In Australia the Greens are far-left, Labor are centre-left, Liberal are centre-right. The best position to be in is either centre-left or centre-right as they are not extreme. |
I follow american politics more than australian politics, so what I dont understand is how can the right keep stating that they are for smaller government when they are interested in:
a) more war
b) more intervention in people's private lives (see their views on gay marriage, abortion, contraception etc)..
these things do not call for small government at all, but large, all-seeing, all-controlling government. |
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Kingswood
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| Dragme wrote: | Looking at all the rants by certain posters of late I was thinking the same thing. Is there such a thing as people that hang left or right. People that follow some political mantra that runs their lives.
Is it kind of like star signs? I am a Virgo, so I am supposed to be pure and virginal, neat and forever in pursuit of some ideology that makes me so similar to other people that are born in August/September.
I usually refuse to label myself and others along any sort of bullshit definitions. I prefer to meet people and work out if I like them or not.
It is too difficult and will use up too many of my brain cells to try and label you guys based on if you hang left or right. |
if people asked me i'd say when it comes to social issues i lean to the far left, and when it comes to business issues i am center-right. but what i usually see is people don't label themselves nearly as much as they label others. people have views, whether it is following a party line or simply what they believe. generally, those views can be boxed into some category or other
doing so (labeling others) actually saves time and brain cells. instead of arguiing whats actually been said, they just use one of their thousands of pre-devised arguments against the left/ right etc.. |
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| Last post - I really think the difference in the states though between both parties is quite stark; so you can say it does warrant it. In Australia though, it really means less.. Jezza summarises it well |
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3.14159
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great idea.
i'm gunna stick all my labels in card-board boxes.
that wae i won't know whats in them
but at least i'll know where Left them. |
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