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Proud Pies 
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Since this includes Collingwood as well, I thought this the best place to put it.
| Quote: | | FOLLOWING a meeting today in Adelaide of the AFL Commission with the 18 club presidents/chairmen and chief executive officers, agreement was reached on the broad principles that should underpin measures to strengthen the competitive balance between teams. |
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-03-04/full-statement-competitive-balance-deliberations-and-agm
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Brenny
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The bold, concern me the most...
1. All clubs to have the capacity to pay 100% of TPP and ASA limits
2. All clubs to have the capacity to fund a level of non-player expenditure to be competitive on field while maintaining overall profitability
3. To deliver financial viability and on field competitiveness, an enhanced revenue sharing system including both central and local revenue is required
4. A mechanism to control growth in non-player football spend is required
5. There is an aspiration to move towards a pure draft and salary cap
6. There is an aspiration to pay the players more, if affordable for the industry
7. Supplementary funds are required in addition to increased revenue sharing to address structural inequities eg: - fixture cycle, stadia deal, supporter base size, non-football businesses
8. Revenue sharing recipients must remain incentivised to grow and actively address causes of disadvantage
9. AFL to provide more central support and enforce stronger penalties for non-compliance
10. No club to be unfairly disadvantaged by the new competitive balance policy
No.6 concerns me because players think they need to earn more, which they can if they want (not too stressed), but I don't want that to be at the loss of any of the 18 teams that then means more hand outs. |
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jackcass 
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| A fist full of motherhood statements but what the bloody hell does it mean. Agree the highlighted passages are the most concerning. Item 7 is the most confusing. |
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ronrat
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How about not paying a million bucks to a banned coach.
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Albert Parker
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| jackcass wrote: | | A fist full of motherhood statements but what the bloody hell does it mean. Agree the highlighted passages are the most concerning. Item 7 is the most confusing. |
Presumably the AFL is going to have to find the money itself to buy Etihad and to create a better stadium deal for clubs like North, Bulldogs etc who all lose money on most of their home games. Not going to find $250m from asking each of the stronger clubs to tip some in.
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Brenny
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Apparently a 75% tax has been approved by the presidents, including Eddie who said something has to be done, for every dollar spent over x amount.
Didn't actually hear with x dollar is. |
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Proud Pies
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just heard on MMM that the Sydney Cost Of Living payment has been cancelled as well.
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John Wren 
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| jackcass wrote: | | A fist full of motherhood statements but what the bloody hell does it mean. Agree the highlighted passages are the most concerning. Item 7 is the most confusing. |
item 7 ... i'd hazard a guess it's referring to st kilda, western welfare, melbourne, the pauperoos, possibly port adelaide and brisbane. all our home game revenue when we play them will go to them rather than us. 
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Albert Parker
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^You may be right. Other than for these inequities though, what is the revenue re-distribution required for?
I thought is was only about this, rather than for poor administration as well.
This increasingly socialist system is a real concern.
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John Wren
"Look after the game. It means so much to so many."
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| Albert Parker wrote: | ^You may be right. Other than for these inequities though, what is the revenue re-distribution required for?
I thought is was only about this, rather than for poor administration as well.
This increasingly socialist system is a real concern. |
the afl has been a socialist comp for some time now. you'd like to think administrations are vastly improved to that only a few years ago. there are some very astute people involved in footy clubs nowadays.
in recent times the afl has done a bit of work to ensure that every club has a minimum level of infrastructure in terms of human resources and capability.
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dillo_09
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Again, all of this discussion reminds me of Aesops fable from the 6th century AD about the any and the Grasshopper. Old but relevant to this discussion I think - Google it.
We worked damn hard to get where we are now. Dont forget that we were flat broke in 1999 and Ed went cap in hand to the AFL asking for a handout to help us, like other clubs were receiving.
Wayne Jackson gave us the best possible answer - "NO! Go and do it yourself." Ed said get stuffed and began to build the monster we are now.
Why the F**k should we share the spoils of our hard work?? |
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John Wren
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^ you can't blame the current administrations for sins of the past. the afl is a vastly different beast to what it was back then.
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Redlight
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| jackcass wrote: | | A fist full of motherhood statements but what the bloody hell does it mean. Agree the highlighted passages are the most concerning. Item 7 is the most confusing. |
I suspect their after a slice of our membership fees, merchandising money and anything else we do better than the shit clubs.
I don't understand why they think struggling club administrations will bother trying to improve if they're guaranteed a slice of the profits from the bigger clubs.
Even more worrying, why should a club like Collingwood bother if all the benefits we get from doing things well are simply redistributed?
It seems like a sure-fire recipe for shrinking the game. The clubs will end up more equal certainly, but equally bad. There will be no advantage in excelling. |
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swoop42
Whatcha gonna do when he comes for you?
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We have to many Melbourne clubs anyway.
If they can't stand on there own two feet then let them die.
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Lazza
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| Redlight wrote: | | It seems like a sure-fire recipe for shrinking the game. The clubs will end up more equal certainly, but equally bad. There will be no advantage in excelling. |
This is a no brainer. The AFL's hidden agenda is to get the well managed clubs like Collingwood and Hawthorn down to the lowest common denominator of average performance, all under this bullshit guise of "equality". There is no way know we could have "equality" when the 18 clubs have varying degrees of fan support, huge sponsorship/resources and management/administration skills. This is the impossible dream. The only way to have "uncertainty of outcome" in any game is for proper list management, recruiting under the salary cap and maximizing ones efforts both on and off the field. Dependence on other clubs for funding gives those clubs a sense of entitlement for success THEY didn’t work towards themselves. In other words, depending on pure bloody charity from the better managed clubs. What nonsense is that for building up respect among your peers?
Eddies speech at Monday night's Season launch indicated strongly that Collingwood will not cave into pressure from the AFL to hold other clubs hands. I hope he maintains the rage with full backing from us Collingwood supporters. |
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