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Az
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swoop42
Whatcha gonna do when he comes for you?
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Location: The 18
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He's had some excuses due to injuries but going by reports (and stats) his performances at U18 level have been far from mind blowing so far.
He'll need to show something this year worthy of our first round pick you'd think though I'm sure the Moore name will be hard to pass up. _________________ He's mad. He's bad. He's MaynHARD! |
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This is the year to win the flag since it looks like we are going to get a top 5 talent even though we might hold the 20th dcraft pick. i say all of the tanking we've been doing the past 2 years to get first round draft picks can stop now...... _________________ Ohhh, the Premiership's a cakewalk ....... |
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ronrat
Joined: 22 May 2006 Location: Thailand
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the chances of a dozen clubs letting us get him for a final round pick is zero. We may as well commit to the kid now. _________________ Annoying opposition supporters since 1967. |
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Albert Parker
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I posted extracts in the Draft and Trade Forum.
Is it worth even having this separation though? _________________ One team, one dream - the Pies and this year's premiership |
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3rd degree
Joined: 22 Jun 2004 Location: John Wren's tote
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ronrat wrote: | the chances of a dozen clubs letting us get him for a final round pick is zero. We may as well commit to the kid now. |
Agree we cant let it him slip and I doubt we will , word is he is a much better kick than Shane Weowdin. _________________ " Ohhh Banksy and out comes the Note Book".
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melliot
Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Location: Bendigo
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I don't understand the articles approach.
He is potentially a top 5 pick. Yet we may have to give up our first pick for him in the bidding system. This pick is likely to be pick 8+ and possibly a pick in the teens.
Effectively, we are straight swapping a teen pick for pick 5. Seems like a great deal.
Not sure how we are paying 'More' when it's actually less.
We won't actually know what he is worth till the seasons end. So no point making a locked commitment now. There is no rush.
To E, ...is there a bad year to win the flag? |
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Robbie
Joined: 18 Oct 2010 Location: Canberra
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melliot wrote: | I don't understand the articles approach.
He is potentially a top 5 pick. Yet we may have to give up our first pick for him in the bidding system. This pick is likely to be pick 8+ and possibly a pick in the teens.
Effectively, we are straight swapping a teen pick for pick 5. Seems like a great deal.
Not sure how we are paying 'More' when it's actually less.
We won't actually know what he is worth till the seasons end. So no point making a locked commitment now. There is no rush.
To E, ...is there a bad year to win the flag? |
Agree totally and the other benefit that cannot be quantified in dollar terms is having a son of a Collingwood Great, who has been a Pies supporter all his life, hopefully playing for the Pies and living his dream.
Is it any wonder we wonder how journalists create a column other than by including a Collingwood angle and then showing a disadvantage so as to appeal to the ugly masses that love to hate us. I hope we can regenerate the Magpie TV coverage from last year on Fox, and have it every week. Imagine watching a Friday night game without the idiotic drivel from Bruce McAvaney. _________________ Happiness is being a Collingwood Football Club Member! Euphoria is watching the Pies win the Premiership! |
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axl13
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As I said the other month, he is going to be a gun player in our forward line, no need for Tom Boyd we are going to get Darcy Moore, he could go number 1 with a dominating season. |
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MagpieBat
Joined: 27 Nov 2010 Location: Brooding in a cave... somewhere... maybe...
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melliot wrote: | I don't understand the articles approach.
He is potentially a top 5 pick. Yet we may have to give up our first pick for him in the bidding system. This pick is likely to be pick 8+ and possibly a pick in the teens.
Effectively, we are straight swapping a teen pick for pick 5. Seems like a great deal.
Not sure how we are paying 'More' when it's actually less.
We won't actually know what he is worth till the seasons end. So no point making a locked commitment now. There is no rush.
To E, ...is there a bad year to win the flag? |
I think what they are getting at is the idea that we would preferably like to get Darcy for a 2nd rounder, which would then free up the 1st rounder to either double-dip and get another high quality kid in the draft, or use it as a chip with which to trade.
Of course, it was too good a headline for the Hun writers to pass up as well... |
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Brenny
Joined: 05 Apr 2011 Location: Westpac Centre
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Cloke will be 27 in a few days time and 28 by the start of season 2015.
Unless we have somebody in the VFL waiting to play CHF or FF, then I think we will have to take Moore.
203cm and 94kg already, is pretty good!
Cloke is 196cm and 108kg.
Ruk + FWD or BAK + FWD + RUK is a very good prospect! Think of SuperCoach... I mean... |
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melliot
Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Location: Bendigo
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MagpieBat wrote: | melliot wrote: | I don't understand the articles approach.
He is potentially a top 5 pick. Yet we may have to give up our first pick for him in the bidding system. This pick is likely to be pick 8+ and possibly a pick in the teens.
Effectively, we are straight swapping a teen pick for pick 5. Seems like a great deal.
Not sure how we are paying 'More' when it's actually less.
We won't actually know what he is worth till the seasons end. So no point making a locked commitment now. There is no rush.
To E, ...is there a bad year to win the flag? |
I think what they are getting at is the idea that we would preferably like to get Darcy for a 2nd rounder, which would then free up the 1st rounder to either double-dip and get another high quality kid in the draft, or use it as a chip with which to trade. |
I'd rather have the kid absolutely staring and looking like a potential no.1 pick and use our pick 8+, than him just cruise along and we're not sure if he is any good as a 2nd rounder.
The worst scenario, he's worth pick 18 or so and a team bids a 1st round pick and we then have to give up pick 8 or so for him. But that's bad luck.
But the pick 18 vs 8 is just an opinion. No one will know until 5-10 years down the track if they're right. It will be Hine-sight or Hindsight
In all likelihood, I don't see this as a problem, it's a bonus. |
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MagpieBat
Joined: 27 Nov 2010 Location: Brooding in a cave... somewhere... maybe...
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melliot wrote: | MagpieBat wrote: | melliot wrote: | I don't understand the articles approach.
He is potentially a top 5 pick. Yet we may have to give up our first pick for him in the bidding system. This pick is likely to be pick 8+ and possibly a pick in the teens.
Effectively, we are straight swapping a teen pick for pick 5. Seems like a great deal.
Not sure how we are paying 'More' when it's actually less.
We won't actually know what he is worth till the seasons end. So no point making a locked commitment now. There is no rush.
To E, ...is there a bad year to win the flag? |
I think what they are getting at is the idea that we would preferably like to get Darcy for a 2nd rounder, which would then free up the 1st rounder to either double-dip and get another high quality kid in the draft, or use it as a chip with which to trade. |
I'd rather have the kid absolutely staring and looking like a potential no.1 pick and use our pick 8+, than him just cruise along and we're not sure if he is any good as a 2nd rounder.
The worst scenario, he's worth pick 18 or so and a team bids a 1st round pick and we then have to give up pick 8 or so for him. But that's bad luck.
But the pick 18 vs 8 is just an opinion. No one will know until 5-10 years down the track if they're right. It will be Hine-sight or Hindsight
In all likelihood, I don't see this as a problem, it's a bonus. |
I'm sure we'd all like that, mate.
But in the game of list management, I'm also sure Dekka and his elves would want to get Moore with a 2nd rounder and thereby have that 1st round pick free to play around with. Their thinking would probably be "why get just 1 top 20 talent when you can get 2?" |
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warburton lad
Joined: 26 Aug 2003
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It would not surprise me for the AFL to alter the father-son rule to extend it to players who play less than 100 games for a club , but win a Brownlow for that club, can pick up a father-son.
This would enable Melbourne to underbid Collingwood.
Think it won't happen?? Think again!! _________________ Firm in the belief that number 17 flag is only months away... |
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melliot
Joined: 07 Apr 2006 Location: Bendigo
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MagpieBat wrote: | melliot wrote: | MagpieBat wrote: | melliot wrote: | I don't understand the articles approach.
He is potentially a top 5 pick. Yet we may have to give up our first pick for him in the bidding system. This pick is likely to be pick 8+ and possibly a pick in the teens.
Effectively, we are straight swapping a teen pick for pick 5. Seems like a great deal.
Not sure how we are paying 'More' when it's actually less.
We won't actually know what he is worth till the seasons end. So no point making a locked commitment now. There is no rush.
To E, ...is there a bad year to win the flag? |
I think what they are getting at is the idea that we would preferably like to get Darcy for a 2nd rounder, which would then free up the 1st rounder to either double-dip and get another high quality kid in the draft, or use it as a chip with which to trade. |
I'd rather have the kid absolutely staring and looking like a potential no.1 pick and use our pick 8+, than him just cruise along and we're not sure if he is any good as a 2nd rounder.
The worst scenario, he's worth pick 18 or so and a team bids a 1st round pick and we then have to give up pick 8 or so for him. But that's bad luck.
But the pick 18 vs 8 is just an opinion. No one will know until 5-10 years down the track if they're right. It will be Hine-sight or Hindsight
In all likelihood, I don't see this as a problem, it's a bonus. |
I'm sure we'd all like that, mate.
But in the game of list management, I'm also sure Dekka and his elves would want to get Moore with a 2nd rounder and thereby have that 1st round pick free to play around with. Their thinking would probably be "why get just 1 top 20 talent when you can get 2?" |
Understanding where your coming from. But I think that line of thinking would be closer to "Hopeful" than "Reality". Clubs are just too switched on when scoping talent. Especially on a high profile U18 kid like Moore. Anyone thinking we are going to get him for significant unders is just hoping. |
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