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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:22 am
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Mighty Magpie’s 2017 Season Review

Following on from my 2017 and 2016 previews:
2017: http://magpies.net/nick/bb/viewtopic.php?t=81406
2016: http://www.magpies.net/nick/bb/viewtopic.php?p=1641049&highlight=mighty+magpie+2016+season+preview#1641049

and for incorporation in my 2018 preview (which will come later), I propose to write a review of the 2017 season from a Pies' perspective. It will undoubtedly be a bit piecemeal as I write bits when I get time (I reply to the thread when I do major updates/additions), but I broadly intend to cover the following:

• Game-By-game Review.

• Goal kicking list.

• Some possible voting scenarios that might provide some context for the Copeland.

• Player-by-player review.

Anyway, feel free to post any comments (preferably polite), corrections, different viewpoints/opinions or additional information.

Much of this is pulling together work done by others and I try to acknowledge when I do use others' work. If I do fail to do this along the way I apologise and feel free to send me a PM and I will correct it asap.

2017 Season – A Game-By-Game Review

This section will read as a chronology which I found useful when "re-living" the season. Hopefully it isn't too painful to read in this format.

Game scores, best players, goals and injuries sourced from afl.com, except where noted.

A good JLT Community Series set expectations high for the season proper:

COL 2.13.9 (105) def ESS 0.14.10 (94) Best: Phillips, De Goey, Smith, Sidebottom, Greenwood, Ramsay. Goals: Hoskin-Elliott 2, Crisp 2, De Goey 2, Varcoe 2 (jnc 1SG), Dunn 1 SG, White, Phillips, Moore, Mayne, Elliott, Aish. Injuries: Sinclair (hamstring).

http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/jlt-community-series/2017/1/coll-v-ess

FRE 1.11.12 (87) def COL 1.12.4 (85) Best: Howe, Adams, Cox, Grundy, Treloar, Phillips. Goals: Cox 3, Fasolo 2, Howe 1SG, Moore, Phillips, White, Treloar, Varcoe, Greenwood, Adams. Injuries: Nil.

http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/jlt-community-series/2017/3/fre-v-coll

COL 1.15.15 (114) def RIC 0.16.11 (107) Best: Treloar, Reid, Adams, Sidebottom, Crisp, Grundy, Smith, Phillips. Goals: Moore 3, White 3, Fasolo 2, Mayne 2, Cox, Grundy, Treloar 2 (inc 1SG), Smith, Phillips. Injuries: Adams (cut chin), Pendlebury (Achilles tightness) late withdrawal.

http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/jlt-community-series/2017/4/rich-v-coll

Heading into the season there were injury clouds over Greenwood (hip surgery), Aish (virus), Elliott (back), Wells (“on a plan” mini pre-season), De Goey (hand), Langdon (knee), Wills (quad), Brown (glandular fever) and Crocker.

After a generally positive JLT Community Series came the reality …

Rd 1: WBD 15.10 (100) def COL 12.14 (86) @ MCG. Best: Pendlebury, Treloar, Sidebottom, Adams, Fasolo, Reid. Goals: Fasolo 3, Sidebottom 2, Pendlebury 2, White, Mayne, Treloar, Goldsack, Hoskin-Elliott. Injuries: Aish (virus) replaced in the selected side by Mayne.

AFLPR Top 5: Pendlebury, Sidebottom, Howe, Hoskin-Elliott, Adams.

http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/1/coll-v-wb

0-1 (11th)

Rd 2: RIC 14.15 (99) def COL 11.14 (80) @ MCG. Best: Grundy, Hoskin-Elliott, Pendlebury, Treloar, Adams. Goals: Hoskin-Elliott 3, White 2, Treloar 2, Moore, Broomhead, Mayne, Grundy. Injuries: Nil.

AFLPR Top 5: Grundy, Hoskin-Elliott, Treloar, Phillips, Pendlebury.

http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/2/rich-v-coll

0-2 (11th)

Rd 3: COL 11.14 (80) def SYD 11.13 (79) @ SCG. Best: Adams, Grundy, Sidebottom, Fasolo, Treloar, Crisp. Goals: Fasolo 4, Varcoe 2, Crisp, White, Greenwood, Treloar, Hoskin-Elliott. Injuries: Nil.

AFLPR Top 5: Fasolo, Maynard, Pendlebury, Adams, Crisp.

http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/3/syd-v-coll

1-2 (12th)

Rd 4: STK 9.15 (69) def COL 7.13 (55) @ Etihad Stadium. Best: Howe, Grundy, Sidebottom, Adams, Reid, Treloar. Goals: Hoskin-Elliott 2, Fasolo, Crisp, White, Blair, Schade. Injuries: Phillips (illness) replaced in selected side by Blair, Hoskin-Elliott (left wrist).

AFLPR Top 5: Pendlebury, Howe, Grundy, Schade, Adams.

http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/4/coll-v-stk

1-3 (13th)

Rd 5: ESS 15.10 (100) def COL 11.16 (82) @ MCG. Best: Howe, Wells, Treloar, Sidebottom, Elliott. Goals: Elliott 3, Moore 2, Wells 2, Sidebottom, Fasolo, Treloar, Crisp. Injuries: Broomhead (jaw), Grundy (corked calf).
AFLPR Top 5: Treloar, Howe, Crisp, Maynard, Wells.

http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/5/ess-v-coll

1-4 (13th)

Rd 6: COL 15.17 (107) def GEE 11.12 (78 ) @ MCG. Best: Adams, Pendlebury, Greenwood, Crisp, Sidebottom, Grundy, Dunn. Goals: Moore 2, Fasolo 2, Hoskin-Elliott, Pendlebury, Phillips, Cox, Crisp, Broomhead, Sidebottom, Maynard, Elliott, Treloar, Wells.

AFLPR Top 5: Pendlebury, Adams, Hoskin-Elliott, Crisp, Wells.

http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/6/geel-v-coll

2-4 (12th)

Rd 7: CAR 12.7 (79) def COL 8.8 (56) @ MCG. Best: Reid, Elliott, Adams, Pendlebury. Goals: Elliott 3, De Goey 2, Fasolo, Cox, Moore. Injuries: Wells (soreness) replaced in selected side by Broomhead, Cox (ankle).

AFLPR Top 5: Greenwood, De Goey, Elliott, Adams, Ramsay.

http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/7/coll-v-carl

2-5 (15th)

Rd 8: GWS 15.12 (102) def COL 15.9 (99) @ Spotless. Best: Adams, Grundy, Sidebottom, Howe, Pendlebury, Wells. Goals: Elliott 3, Sidebottom 3, Maynard 2, Blair 2, Grundy, Hoskin-Elliott, Crisp, De Goey, Reid. Injuries: Nil.

AFLPR Top 5: Sidebottom, Adams, Howe, Pendlebury, Maynard.

http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/8/gws-v-coll

2-6 (17th)

Rd 9: COL 13.12 (90) def HAW 11.6 (72) @ MCG. Best: Pendlebury, Howe, Adams, Treloar, Moore, Smith. Goals: Elliott 3, Moore 2, Maynard, Greenwood, Treloar, Howe, Crisp, Pendlebury, Sidebottom, Smith. Injuries: Aish (fractured cheekbone).

AFLPR Top 5: Pendlebury, Treloar, Moore, Adams, Crisp.

http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/9/coll-v-haw

3-6 (13th)

Rd 10: COL 18.21 (129) def BRI 13.6 (84) @ MCG. Best: Pendlebury, Treloar, Sidebottom, Adams, Elliott, Grundy. Goals: Elliott 4, Moore 3, Fasolo 2, Wells 2, Treloar, Sidebottom, Smith, Maynard, Dunn, Broomhead, Adams. Injuries: Moore (right shin).

AFLPR Top 5: Treloar, Goldsack, Grundy, Pendlebury, Maynard.

http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/10/coll-v-bl

4-6 (12th)

Rd 11: COL 15.15 (105) def FRE 12.13 (85) @ Domain Stadium. Best: Treloar, Pendlebury, Sidebottom, Adams, Smith, Howe. Goals: Elliott 3, De Goey 2, Moore 2, Hoskin-Elliott 2, Phillips, Pendlebury, Greenwood, Treloar, Crocker, Howe. Injuries: Wells (calf), Elliott (ankle), Goldsack (shoulder), Greenwood (quad).

AFLPR Top 5: Treloar, Phillips, Howe, Pendlebury, Crisp.

http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/11/fre-v-coll

5-6 (10th)

Rd 12: MEL 15.14 (104) def COL 15.10 (100) @ MCG. Best: Sidebottom, Grundy, Treloar, Howe, Maynard, Broomhead. Goals: Greenwood 2, Sidebottom 2, Moore 2, Phillips 2, De Goey 2, Fasolo 2, Aish, Crocker, Treloar. Injuries: Nil.

AFLPR Top 5: Howe, Phillips, Treloar, Dunn, Grundy.

http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/12/melb-v-coll

5-7 (11th)

Rd 13: BYE

5-7 (13th)

Rd 14: PA 13.15 (93) def COL 9.8 (62) @ MCG. Best: Pendlebury, Treloar, Fasolo, Sidebottom, Goldsack, Reid. Goals: Moore 3, Fasolo 2, Brown, De Goey, Crocker, Reid. Injuries: Nil.

AFLPR Top 5: Sidebottom, Pendlebury, De Goey, Grundy, Howe.

http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/14/coll-v-port

5-8 (13th)

Rd 15: HAW 18.10 (118) def COL 14.10 (94) @ MCG. Best: De Goey, Treloar, Phillips, Grundy, Sidebottom, Cox. Goals: Cox 3, Fasolo 3, Elliott, Moore, Greenwood, Thomas, Sidebottom, Phillips, Broomhead, Treloar. Injuries: Moore (hamstring), Goldsack (concussion, nose).

AFLPR Top 5: De Goey, Grundy, Treloar, Thomas, Fasolo.

http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/15/haw-v-coll

5-9 (15th)

Rd 16: ESS 18.9 (117) def COL 12.8 (80) @ MCG. Best: Sidebottom, Elliott, Goldsack, Pendlebury. Goals: Fasolo 4, Elliott 3, Broomhead, Reid, Cox, De Goey, Adams. Injuries: Howe (calf) replaced in selected side by Scharenberg.

AFLPR Top 5: Adams, Langdon, Goldsack, Hoskin-Elliott, Sidebottom.

http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/16/coll-v-ess

5-10 (15th)

Rd 17: COL 15.13 (103) def GCS 13.10 (88 ) @ Metricon Stadium. Best: Sidebottom, Treloar, Reid, Fasolo, Pendlebury, Thomas. Goals: Reid 3, Fasolo 2, Wells 2, Thomas 2, Moore 2, Blair, Elliott, Maynard, Sidebottom. Injuries: Nil.

AFLPR Top 5: Sidebottom, Adams, Treloar, Reid, Wells.

http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/17/gcfc-v-coll

6-10 (14th)

Rd 18: COL 13.15 (93) def WCE 13.7 (85) @ Etihad Stadium. Best: De Goey, Treloar, Howe, Crisp, Grundy, Adams, Greenwood. Goals: De Goey 4, Elliott 3, Reid 2, Fasolo, Greenwood, Hoskin-Elliott, Adams. Injuries: Moore (neck), Varcoe (concussion, elbow).

AFLPR Top 5: De Goey, Crisp, Hoskin-Elliott, Grundy, Greenwood.

http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/18/coll-v-wce

7-10 (13th)

Rd 19: COL 15.13 (103) drew ADE 16.7 (103) @ MCG. Best: Wells, Sidebottom, Adams, Howe, Moore. Goals: Adams 3, Wells 3, Reid 2, Blair 2, Hoskin-Elliott, Thomas, Elliott, Moore, Treloar. Injuries: Blair (nose).
AFLPR Top 5: Adams, Sidebottom, Wells, Blair, Howe.

http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/19/coll-v-adel

7.5-10.5 (13th)

Rd 20: COL 16.15 (111) def NM 7.15 (57) @ Etihad Stadium. Best: Treloar, Adams, Blair, Langdon, De Goey, Grundy. Goals: Blair 3, Thomas 2, Adams 2, Fasolo, De Goey, Moore, Phillips, Treloar, Howe, Wells, Grundy, Elliott. Injuries: Greenwood (left knee), Goldsack (head), Wells (left thigh). MRP: Gundy 2 weeks.

AFLPR Top 5: Grundy, Howe, Adams, Maynard, Treloar.

http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/20/nmfc-v-coll

8.5-10.5 (12th)

Rd 21: PA 14.14 (98 ) def COL 10.11 (71) @ Adelaide Oval. Best: Sidebottom, Reid, Adams, Treloar, Crisp, Howe. Goals: Reid 4, Moore, Elliott, Phillips, Sidebottom, Hoskin-Elliott, Blair. Injuries: De Goey (groin), Hoskin-Elliott (hip).

AFLPR Top 5: Adams, Reid, Treloar, Sidebottom, Crisp.

http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/21/port-v-coll

8.5-11.5 (13th)

Rd 22: GEE 10.10 (70) def COL 9.5 (59) @ MCG. Best: Adams, Howe, Cox, Moore, Scharenberg, Hoskin-Elliott. Goals: Cox 2, Hoskin-Elliott 2, Broomhead 2, Moore, Sidebottom, Blair. Injuries: Adams (head).
AFLPR Top 5: Cox, Hoskin-Elliott, Langdon, Dunn, Crisp.

http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/22/coll-v-geel

8.5-12.5 (13th)

Rd 23: COL 14.15 (99) def MEL 12.11 (83) @ MCG. Best: Elliott, Adams, Hoskin-Elliott, Sidebottom, Treloar, Dunn. Goals: Elliott 3, Phillips 2, Cox 2, Hoskin-Elliott 2, Daicos, Grundy, Sidebottom, Broomhead, Adams. Injuries: Sidebottom (hamstring).

AFLPR Top 5: Hoskin-Elliott, Sidebottom, Adams, Elliott, Phillips.

http://www.afl.com.au/match-centre/2017/23/coll-v-melb

9.5-12.5 (13th)

Leading Goalkickers

Elliott 34.16 (17 games) 2.00 @ 67%
Fasolo 29.29 (19 games) 1.53 @ 50% (kicked 25.6 in 12 games in 2016!)
Moore 25.19 (21 games) 1.19 @ 57%
Hoskin-Elliott 18.6 (22 games)
Sidebottom 16.9 (22 games)
Reid 14.13 (15 games)
De Goey 14.8 (14 games) 1.00 @ 64%
Treloar 13.11 (21 games)
Wells 11.5 (10 games) 1.10 @ 69%
Blair 11.7 (12 games)
Cox 10.5 (9 games) 1.11 @ 67%



Copeland

2017 E.W. Copeland Trophy Top Ten  
1. Steele Sidebottom, 140 (E.W. Copeland Trophy)
2. Taylor Adams, 139 (R.T. Rush Trophy)
3. Adam Treloar, 112 (J.J. Joyce Trophy)
4. Jeremy Howe, 111 (J.F. McHale Trophy)
5. Brodie Grundy, 92(Jack Regan Trophy)
6. Scott Pendlebury, 91
7. Jack Crisp, 91
8. Brayden Maynard, 79
9. Jamie Elliott, 69
10. Will Hoskin-Elliott, 69
Other Awards 

Darren Millane Perpetual Memorial Trophy (Best Clubman)  
Tyson Goldsack 

Harry Collier Trophy (Best First Year Player)  
Callum Brown 

Gordon Coventry Award (Leading Goal Kicker)  
Jamie Elliott (34 goals) 
 
Joseph Wren Award (Best VFL Player)  
Marty Hore, 82 votes 


AFLPR (votes using 5,4,3,2,1)

Total (Rounds Polled)
Adams 41 (13)
Pendlebury 35 (10)
Treloar 35 (10)
Sidebottom 30 (8 )
Howe 28 (9)
Grundy 25 (8 )
Hoskin-Elliott 20 (6)
De Goey 17 (4)
Crisp 14 (8 )
Phillips 11 (4)
Langdon 10 (3)
Maynard 10 (5)
Goldsack 7 (2)
Wells 6 (4)
Greenwood 6 (2)
Reid 6 (2)
Fasolo 6 (2)
Elliott 5 (2)
Cox 5 (1)
Dunn 4 (2)
Moore 3 (1)
Schade 2 (1)
Thomas 2 (1)
Blair 2 (1)
Ramsay 1 (1)

AFLCA Votes

Total (Rounds Polled)
Adams 62 (13)
Pendlebury 48 (7)
Treloar 47 (10)
Sidebottom 46 (11)
Howe 20 (6)
Grundy 18 (5)
Elliott 16 (3)
Wells 15 (3)
De Goey 15 (3)
Hoskin-Elliott 12 (4)
Crisp 9 (3)
Greenwood 8 (2)
Reid 7 (3)
Goldsack 5 (3)
Fasolo 5 (1)
Langdon 4 (2)
Schade 2 (1)
Cox 2 (1)
Phillips 2 (1)
Maynard 1 (1)
Moore 1 (1)

Nick's Gavin Brown Medal

Adams 42.5
Treloar 39.5
Pendlebury 36.5
Grundy 33
Sidebottom 30
Howe 28
Elliott 24
DeGoey 14
Crisp 12.5
Reid 12
Goldsack 9.5
Wells 8
Hoskin-Elliott 8
Fasolo 7
Scharenberg 6
Maynard 4
Cox 4
Greenwood 3
Thomas 3
Langdon 2.5
Smith 1
Schade 1
Dunn 1

VFL Form

Games (Named in the bests):

Ramsay 10 (9)
Aish 9 (6)
Cox 9 (5) 22 goals
Mayne 17 (5) 18 goals
Borthwick-VFL 15 (5)
Kelly-VFL 10 (5)
Tardrew-VFL 17 (5)
Wills 7 (5)
Scharenberg 8 (5)
Hore-VFL 14 (5)
Kirby 16 (4) 42 goals
Hellier-VFL 12(4)
Jarryd Blair 8 (4)
Thomas 7 (4)
Broomhead 6 (4)
Keeffe 18 (3) 15 goals
Lane-VFL 13 (3)
Brown 10 (3)
Josh Smith 5 (3)
Matthew Smith-VFL 11 (3)
White 14 (2) 15 goals
Howe-VFL 5 (2)
Beveridge-VFL 8 (2)
Tahana-VFL 8 (2)
Daicos 14 (1) 8 goals
De Goey 3 (1)
Lynch 17 (1)
Phillips 2 (1)
Jack Blair-VFL 4 (1)
McLarty 13 (1)
Close-VFL 5 (1)
Hinkley-VFL 7 (1)
Dunn 2 (1)
Chippendale-VFL 6 (1)
Crocker 7 (0) 10 goals
Sier 10 (0)
La Fontaine-VFL 4 (0)
Reid 1 (0)
Collopy 2 (0)
Mackie 12 (0)
McCarthy 5 (0)
Gray-VFL 11 (0)
Oxley 2 (0)
Indovino-VFL 1 (0)
Mastromanno-VFL 1 (0)
Woodward 3 (0)
Paton-VFL 2 (0)
Wells 1 (0)
Schade 8 (0)
Wallace-VFL 1 (0)
Starcevich 1 (0)
Turner-VFL 1 (0)
Ryan Pendlebury-VFL 7 (0)
Langdon 3 (0)
Varcoe 1 (0)

Player-By-Player Review

inx88 has kicked off a discussion on this already:
Part 1: http://magpies.net/nick/bb/viewtopic.php?t=82935
Part 2: http://magpies.net/nick/bb/viewtopic.php?t=82955&sid=72d0cc927c6e15b7a77b786b80c491d8

and I will add my player review comments below.

Taylor Adams – Clearly a mainstay of our inside midfield group, now and for many years to come. Ranked #27 in the AFLPR (over 2 years) and approaching 100 games. Can butcher the ball at times coming out of the backline, but his disposal and decision making has improved over the last couple of seasons. Played a bit off half back and even forward at times, but I like him in the guts.

James Aish - Started to show he believed in himself at AFL level in 2016, but from what I could tell that disappeared this season despite ticking over the 50 game mark. Managed only 8 games in the seniors. Featured in the bests 6 times in 9 games at VFL level. Contracted for 2018 and it will be a crunch year for him. SA connections and maybe on the trade table?

Jarryd Blair - 10th in the Copeland in 2016, but clearly a depth player in 2017 with only 12 senior games. Whilst much-maligned, he was serviceable as a depth small defensive forward. Featured in the bests 4 times in 8 games at VFL level. Won’t be front of mind for the list manager and may have to wait late into the offseason to know if he will be recontracted for 2018.

Tim Broomhead – 14 senior games. Featured in the bests 4 times in 6 games at VFL level. I have mixed feelings about where he is at given the early expectations, albeit that he has been interrupted by injuries. Contracted for 2018, but like Aish it will be a crunch year. SA connections and maybe on the trade table?

Callum Brown - Managed 5 games in his debut season. Featured in the bests 3 times in 10 games at VFL level. Showed a bit, but still a relatively light-framed body. Will be interesting to see if he can have a big pre-season and push for senior selection in 2018. Ranked 3rd amongst rising stars for stoppage clearances per game and contested possessions per game. Despite the body shape, he is looking like a future contested ball inside mid.

Mason Cox (Cat B rookie - nominated) – Limited senior opportunities (9 games), but played well enough in the last 3 games of the season to still suggest that he can be a Ruck/Forward. Featured in the bests 5 times in 9 games at VFL level. Will presumably play VFL finals (he tweeted that he was keen), but has a contract decision to make at season’s end (27/8/17): "I can't really answer (whether I'm staying at Collingwood) and I don't want to talk about it," Cox said. "It's up in the air. I've got no idea. I'll talk to my agent and see where it goes. I've got some decisions for myself in the next few weeks.". Today (29/8/17) Brian Waldron says that he is off to Brisbane.

Jack Crisp - Played every game for the third consecutive season. Let me repeat that ... Played every game for the third consecutive season. This kid is durable and not bad for the steak knives in the Beams deal. Filled a hole at half back in 2017. Versatile midfielder and at 190cm has the potential to also play a third tall role forward or back if needed.

Ben Crocker – I had high hopes for Crocker after he slipped through to the last pick in the 2015 draft. I thought he would have a point to prove and he seemed to have been much more highly rated pre-draft than where he was taken (rd5, Pick 65). After 10 senior games in 2016, he managed only 3 in 2017. In 7 VFL games he failed to appear in the bests with 10 goals. No guarantee to be re-signed.

Josh Daicos - 14 games at VFL level and made his debut in round 22 with 10 tackles against the Cats. The next week he was quieter (2 tackles), but hit the scoreboard with 1.1. Like Brown he is relatively light-framed. Will be interesting to see if he can have a big pre-season and push for senior selection in 2018. Someone mentioned elsewhere that his Dad had a massive growth spurt after joining the Club, so that is something to watch out for as well. In the 2 senior games, my (unexpert) eyes told me that he is very mentally quick to make decisions and has the ability to dispose of the ball quickly. Just something I saw that stood out to me.

Jordan De Goey – had a dog of a season! The less said about the beginning of the season the better. Once he had served his penance he came in and played 14 senior games. Looked his best going through the midfield and had his best career game against Hawthorn in round 15. Will no doubt spend more time in the midfield in 2018 and move forward at times. It may be De Goey that frees Pendlebury up to play forward.

Lynden Dunn - Schade was preferred early, but once he came in Dunn was a settling fixture in the backline. Not a star, but solid and provided leadership down back along with Goldsack and Howe.

Jamie Elliott - Still didn't look 100% (and has said as much), but kicked 34.16 in 17 games averaging 2.00 goals (ranked 20 in AFL) at 67% accuracy. This guy is a star and will only benefit from the time on ground this year after failing to hit the track in 2016.

Alex Fasolo - Had some personal issues which were publicised, but managed 19 games and kicked 29.29 averaging 1.53 goals at 50% accuracy. This was well down on 2016 when he kicked 25.6 in 12 games. Has his knockers and can be inconsistent, but I really rate him.

Tyson Goldsack - Mr Evergreen. Played 20 games for the first time since 2014. No star, but he is the heart and soul of the team and does the little things. Played back all season except round 23 when he again showed the flexibility to go forward. I've been harping on for years that Reid and Goldsack are the ying and yang swingmen who can be swapped back and forth to unsettle opposition match ups. I hope to see this in 201.

Levi Greenwood - Proved that the tagger isn't dead. He is definitely our #1 go to tagger, but he faces competition for the inside mid roles that are available. Has the capacity to hit the scoreboard. I might be being harsh, but I feel that some of the young guns should be forcing Greenwood out of the side as we develop so Greenwood may be restricted to pure tagging roles in 2018.

Brodie Grundy - Unlucky to miss the All Australian 40 man squad. Probably moved into the elite few ruckman in the competition. He is different to the usual ruckman and his strength is his follow up on the ground and around the ground. Still needs to improve his overhead marking and become a real threat when resting forward.

Will Hoskin-Elliott – We traded this year's seconder rounder for him. Bargain! Played every game and while he drifted in and out of games at times he has something we really need which is outside speed, strong overhead marking and he is also an accurate shot on goal kicking 18.6. very happy to have the former #4 pick on the list.

Jeremy Howe – Backed up his 20 games in 2016 with 21 games this season and was promoted to the leadership group. Ranks top 2 in marks, marks per game, intercepts and 5th in contested marks and 8th in contested marks per game. We definitely appear to have got the better of the complicated four-club trade that saw us lose Seedsman and Kennedy and pick up Howe.

Lachlan Keeffe (R) - No senior games. Featured in the bests 3 times in 18 games at VFL level.

Kayle Kirby - Featured in the bests 4 times in 16 games at VFL level and was tied for the Frosty on 42 goals before being promoted for his debut at senior level. Toiled hard, but frankly struggled in that senior game. A big pre-season could see him in contention.

Tom Langdon – Again struggled with injury early and managed only 11 games after returning. Ranked 5th in intercepts per game in 2017. Hopefully gets a clear run at it in 2018 and gets back to his 2014/2015 form.

Max Lynch (R) – No senior games. Featured in the bests once in 17 games at VFL level. Watched the last regular season game and I've seen worse.

Liam Mackie (R) - No senior games. Did not feature in the bests in 12 VFL games. Likely to be delisted.

Brayden Maynard – Played every game and improves with each game. He has a long penetrating kick albeit that he is prone to clangers and turnovers. His disposal efficiency has improved over each of the three seasons and he has 51 games and is yet to turn 21. Seeing him in midfield in round 23 gave a glimpse of his future I think - an inside mid bull.

Chris Mayne – I HAVE NO WORDS.

Mitch McCarthy (R) – No senior games. Did not feature in the bests in 5 VFL games.

Sam McLarty - No senior games. Featured in the bests once in 13 games at VFL level.

Darcy Moore - 21 senior games. Ranked 10th in contested marks and 15th in contested marks per game. Kicked 25.19 averaging 1.19 goals per game at 57% accuracy. Looks his natural best in the ruck or behind the ball and it will be interesting to see where he ends up playing.

Adam Oxley – Injury killed his 2017 season.

Scott Pendlebury - 16 games was his lowest tally since his debut season in 2006. He will be 30 in the 2018 season and we need to be prepared for a drop off. I believe his height (191cm) and skills provide an opportunity to lengthen his career by playing him forward, possibly even as the third tall if we are struggling for height.

Tom Phillips - Breakout season for Flipper and he deserves to be in the Rising Star discussion. Will be an absolute jet and was a bargain pick at 58 in the 2015 draft.

Jackson Ramsay - Has struggled at senior level a bit after returning from his ACL injury and played only 8 senior games and featured in the best 9 times in 10 games at VFL level.

Ben Reid – Played 15 senior games and was actually dropped to the VFL for a game (let's not go there). Forced forward through team needs and it will be interesting to see if he stays there. Needs some goal kicking practice if he is to stay forward.

Henry Schade (R) - Played JLT and 8 games early before falling out of favour. Also played 8 VFL games.

Matt Scharenberg - Featured in the bests 5 times in 8 games at VFL level before earning promotion to the seniors and playing 10 games. After a wretched run with injuries I just hope that this season gives him the confidence and base to attack the pre-season and show in 2018 what the experts saw in him as a school boy footballer.

Steele Sidebottom - Played every game. Alongside Pendlebury, Treloar and Adams he was one of our key four midfielders. Stood up when Pendlebury missed late in the season and can take some pride from how the team played in those late rounds.

Brayden Sier - Pick 32 (our first pick) in the 2015 draft. Still no senior games and rarely sighted at VFL level the last 2 seasons. Did not feature in the bests in 10 games at VFL level. If he is still rated internally then surely he moves to the rookie list.

Ben Sinclair - Broke the world record for the largest hamstring tear during the pre-season and did not feature at all after that. Between his hamstring and concussion issues, one fears his AFL career may be over.

Josh Smith - Coach's pet in 2016, but seemed to be on the fringe in 2017. Played 13 senior games. Featured in the bests 3 times in 5 games at VFL level.

Josh Thomas (R) – Surprised me (positively) when he got his chance at senior level and has apparently been rewarded with a contract extension to 2019. 9 senior games and featured in the best 4 times in 7 games at VFL level.

Adam Treloar - Was he hampered by injury (OP)? He was good, but seemed a little bit off. Was selected in the All Australian 40 man squad. Would love to see his run and carry breaking the lines more often in 2018.

Travis Varcoe - Managed only the 8 games due to injury.

Daniel Wells - We are a much better team with a fit Daniel Wells. This has been much talked about and it is CRITICAL that we have him up and running in 2018 and play as many games as possible. He is a level above in his disposal, something we sorely lack.

Jesse White - Four games early then fell out of favour at senior level. Retired and well get a swan song in the VFL finals.

Rupert Wills - Only the 6 senior games and featured in the bests 5 times in 7 games at VFL level. Has the potential to be an inside mid bull and the height (192cm) to be versatile.

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Wow, just wow!
That's a great effort MM, well done!
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Thats more effort than I have done all year
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Lot of work there, for me the year is bitter sweet, some good, some bad, some really bad, some very good. Losing to the scum was the absolute pits, nearly beating the giants and crows, the highlight, and putting the deeees outa the finals. LOL. It wasn't a great 125th anniversary year, but we are heading in the right direction now, I'm sure of that, get Lever and a top young KPP Forward, more games into our young kids, and we are on our way to prolonged finals appearances.
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Sterling effort, MM. Well done.
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Great reading and effort much appreciated MM. my favourite was 'I have no words'!
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Excellent review, MM.
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Great review.

We never got higher than tenth position

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Great review


I was most impressed with Crisp this year - played way better than I thought he could - the move to half back was a stroke of genius

Goldsack deserves all the accolades - his playing through pain when he did his shoulder was outstanding

I wonder if Maynard is best suited to a wing/ centre role - reminds me of Darren Millane in some ways - I hope he can develop an 'intimidation' streak

I was pleasantly surprised how much Moore improved over the year - he went form tentative and dropping marks to really owning his position (ruck or forward) in some games

Really interested to see how the other Brown goes in the draft as a possible father son pick - I wonder (if we get him) how this might impact on Callum and perhaps giving both some more confidence

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think better wrote:
Great review


I was most impressed with Crisp this year - played way better than I thought he could - the move to half back was a stroke of genius

Goldsack deserves all the accolades - his playing through pain when he did his shoulder was outstanding

I wonder if Maynard is best suited to a wing/ centre role - reminds me of Darren Millane in some ways - I hope he can develop an 'intimidation' streak

I was pleasantly surprised how much Moore improved over the year - he went form tentative and dropping marks to really owning his position (ruck or forward) in some games

Really interested to see how the other Brown goes in the draft as a possible father son pick - I wonder (if we get him) how this might impact on Callum and perhaps giving both some more confidence


Club expects him to go late in National Draft and possibly even the Rookie Draft.

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I think Marty Hore will get drafted or even rookied from what I saw of him this year.
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thanks a great summary
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Like the reserves form summary! Great stuff
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Good work. I dont agree with everything, but appreciate the effort and analysis applied.
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Mighty Magpie that was mighty, wow. Thank you for your hard and in depth here. Brilliant stuff.
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