Delistings

[jackcass]

I thought Yags was developing "nicely" & became a reliable player in the 2's. Shame.

Thanks Yag's. Good luck for your future.

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[jackcass]

I think Mooney should have been kept, along with Yagmoor. Clarke wasn't up to it anymore unfortuantely. I agree that Buckley could have given Mooney a go upstairs when we had a stagnant forward line.

Agree.

[woftam]

The club made the right call on all 3 in my opinion. None were likely to be best 22 in our AFL team. We need the list spots for players (kids) who still might be.

[SuperStar Beams]

Yags was too far behind in the pecking order to keep, Moons just never came along like we hoped, yes he had pace but that was really about it and Clarke just couldn't catch up to speed with where the AFL went while he was gone

[thompsoc]

Both guys put in week in week out in the Magoos but just couldn't get a call up. Marty was very unlucky, I would've picked him over Dasher Young several times, and Mooney's speed was exactly what our senior side was missing. Why didn't he get a senior shot this year? Each time Buckley had the chance to bring in someone different he opted for the same guys over & over. The gutless match committee was one of the primary reasons for our shock season. After each flogging they picked one scapegoat to drop, like it was their fault, just one of the many reasons Buckley doesn't have the guys behind him,

I hate de-listing time.

Is it physically possible for you to post without turning it into a whinge/diatribe against Buckley.

If you'd bothered to go to a reserves game you'd have seen both Clarke and Mooney's form was ordinary and didn't remotely warrant senior selection (Martin and Kennedy on the other hand...)

Get off your fukking high horse once in a while and go watch the boys at VFL level and it might open your eyes a bit on why certain players do and don't deserve a game.

Another fukking high horse blind stooge in Flashman.
Probably still waiting for your veteran campaign medal
for fighting the "perceptive fellow"!
Please don't respond, I like doing my whinging in peace.

[Skids]

With the failure of so many overseas experiments, it's a pity the AFL doesn't develop a special rookie type draft for Aboriginal players from remote communities. There are some amazing football talents already in Australia's backyard who are highly skilled and intuitive players. Sure, clubs would need to develop specialist programs to assist these young men transition to the demands of professional football, but even if one in ten succeeded, I'm sure they would have an amazing impact on the game bringing excitement and flair to what is fast becoming an overly structured and predictable game. Given the hundreds of millions of dollars invested in the game, it's a shame that hardly any is used to open up pathways for these brilliantly talented young Australians. Remember Liam Jurrah who came down to Melbourne from the desert alone to play for Collingwood. He ended up at Melbourne which was a club in disarray which contributed to his tragic downfall. However, for 2 years Liam was just about the most exciting player in the AFL. With the right environment, at a quality club with great support structures in place, there is no reason why some of these incredibly talented players can't have a similar impact. One day I'd love to see our club lead the way in this area. After all, we are the peoples club, born out of adversity and a marginalised and downtrodden community, much like many remote Aboriginal communities. Come on Collingwood, lead the way!

Great post

DITTO!!!

Is there anyway this idea can be presented to the powers that be at the club?

Oh please.... there's plenty of talent among all creeds and colours that don't cut it in the big league. It's called dedication, commitment and having the guts to reach beyond what others can do.

I've seen so much talent wasted in my time coaching & playing, commitment is the word that rings true.

[Dave The Man]

[Rexy17]

Any news on Fas.

[Pies4shaw]

[The Life of Pie]

I thought Yags was developing "nicely" & became a reliable player in the 2's. Shame.

Thanks Yag's. Good luck for your future.

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Lovely left foot
Was consistently performing.
It's tough holding your spot on the list.
All the best for the future Yags

[Tannin]

I agree with WPT's good wishes and thanks to Marty and Caolin but I don't think that we have the full story on Marty. In his first stint at Collingwood, one of his strengths was his pace. That should have stood him in good stead when he came back even though the game had changed. But in fact Marty had lost a lot of his pace while back in Ireland and despite at least one full preseason he never got it back. Did Marty pick up one or more serious injuries while back in Ireland? If he did, were Hine and Buckley aware of it? I find the difference between Marty in 2008 and Marty in 2013 immense and it has never been explained satisfactorily.

Well spotted, Dr Pie. In fact, as you have surmised, Marty Clarke didn't really need the money and hated being so far away from home, so he went back to Ireland in 2009, never to return. The reserves player we have seen wearing Marty's jumper and playing a handful of senior games since 2012 is in fact his half-brother Owen Clarke who did need the money to save up for a house. For reasons to do with the difficulty of gaining an Australian visa, he just used Marty's passport. They are about the same height and can be difficult to tell apart.

[E]

Good luck to both of them.

Coming half way 'round the world to play with the Magpies well done lads.

Thanks for playing for Collingwood.

I thought Mooney had the ability to play. Nonetheless. Clarke lost out when he returned to Ireland & the game developed much faster than he did. He was already on the slide here. A poor call by Buckley at the time I thought.

I agree with WPT's good wishes and thanks to Marty and Caolin but I don't think that we have the full story on Marty. In his first stint at Collingwood, one of his strengths was his pace. That should have stood him in good stead when he came back even though the game had changed. But in fact Marty had lost a lot of his pace while back in Ireland and despite at least one full preseason he never got it back. Did Marty pick up one or more serious injuries while back in Ireland? If he did, were Hine and Buckley aware of it? I find the difference between Marty in 2008 and Marty in 2013 immense and it has never been explained satisfactorily.

he never had pace. what he had was endurance. Much like Sidey who is not fast but can run all day.

Pace has picked up in recent times as it facilitates the spread that crushes the press and renders low skilled players with big tanks virtually redundant in todays game!

[Piesnchess]

With our massive injuries, if these guys could not get games then, well, they never will. club has made a tough, but just call, we cant have list cloggers . fact.

[The Boy Who Cried Wolf]

With our massive injuries, if these guys could not get games then, well, they never will. club has made a tough, but just call, we cant have list cloggers . fact.

But we do... need we mention his name again..

PS: I thought he was a list clogger, the second I saw him in a pies jumper all those years back.. 100 games lololol

[Pies4shaw]

That's unfair. Blair earned his spot in the Grand a final team. In 2010, he was there ahead of a number of well-performed, experienced players. It wasn't gifted to him. I want to see him displaced from the present side but there is no need to rewrite history.