The 2021 Great Big Consolidated Trade & Draft thread

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^ Well put
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Sier, Banyule product: wealthy club, entitled, their teams always twice the size of the other teams, what a shocker it produced a physically gifted Bear that doesn't know how to forage in the wild
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inxs88 wrote:Stubborn is your middle name. I too think Cox earned too much category B aside
Don't recall ever denying anywhere that he wasn't over paid based on performance. In hindsight. That has nothing to do with whether he was taken as via the ND, RD, or added as a Cat B.

North of $500k puts him on a par with one of the better ruck/forwards of the last 10 years in Josh Jenkins (apparently 5 years @ $550k in 2016) at his best and Cox has never quite reached that level.

Was that known though when he signed his last extension?
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Well if Sier is moving on as an inside mid, surely hard as nails, Trent Dumont ( 26 ) as a free agent comes into the mix.
A Wallis ( 28 ) or Dumont as free agents would offer support to the young blokes around the contest and give them some much needed learning on the job. Throw in a Lipinski ( 23 ) and all of a sudden we start to run out games and introduce some versatility into the line up.
Key forward would be nice but Rome wasn’t built in a day. Let’s get the foundations right first.
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[quote="Raw Hammer"]Sier, another pointless early selection by Hine. Would have been available at 100 that year. Hine: “We expected him to go too 10…”[/quote]
in fairness a lot of recruiters had there eye on him and expected him to be ok
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Brander not being offered a contract. West coast essentially will deal him to any club interested or he goes into draft.
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Raw Hammer wrote:Sier, another pointless early selection by Hine. Would have been available at 100 that year. Hine: “We expected him to go too 10…”
In today's high possession game, how ca a mid play 28 games and have 42 marks in total. That screams a LAZY player who refuses to run hard and make space.
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jackcass wrote: Don't recall ever denying anywhere that he wasn't over paid based on performance
You said the main problem with his salary was supporters obsessing over it, that he’s worth up to $500k and that paying him what he’s getting paid isn’t much of an issue

As for his last extension, it was triggered in his existing contract, which sounds like a mess with built in pay rises and metrics that clearly aren’t based on performance

Collingwood in recent history seem to have a habit of signing contracts that are too much in the players favour in terms of both salary and conditions and that needs to stop
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Rd10.1998_11.1#36 wrote:
jackcass wrote: Don't recall ever denying anywhere that he wasn't over paid based on performance
You said the main problem with his salary was supporters obsessing over it, that he’s worth up to $500k and that paying him what he’s getting paid isn’t much of an issue

As for his last extension, it was triggered in his existing contract, which sounds like a mess with built in pay rises and metrics that clearly aren’t based on performance

Collingwood in recent history seem to have a habit of signing contracts that are too much in the players favour in terms of both salary and conditions and that needs to stop
Yep, the main problem is people obsessing about it, he earned his contract when he re-signed for 2 years with triggers for a 3rd, and I don’t have an issue with what he’s paid. And…..
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So you agree he’s overpaid but you don’t have an issue with it or with a contract that triggers extensions which aren’t linked to actual performance
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jackcass wrote:
Rd10.1998_11.1#36 wrote:
jackcass wrote: Don't recall ever denying anywhere that he wasn't over paid based on performance
You said the main problem with his salary was supporters obsessing over it, that he’s worth up to $500k and that paying him what he’s getting paid isn’t much of an issue

As for his last extension, it was triggered in his existing contract, which sounds like a mess with built in pay rises and metrics that clearly aren’t based on performance

Collingwood in recent history seem to have a habit of signing contracts that are too much in the players favour in terms of both salary and conditions and that needs to stop
Yep, the main problem is people obsessing about it, he earned his contract when he re-signed for 2 years with triggers for a 3rd, and I don’t have an issue with what he’s paid. And…..
Of course we should ALL obsess about payments/contracts to players that ultimately impinge on our salary cap thus ability to compete for a Premiership.
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