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Interesting article. You'd have to think that Qantas tactics are unlikely to get a lot of sympathy from a Labor government, but neither can they afford to come down too strongly on the side of the unions.
Julia Gillard has intervened to force Qantas planes back into the air, last night making an emergency application for Fair Work Australia to order an end to all industrial action.
After the snap grounding of all planes by the company at 5pm yesterday to implement a lockout of staff taking industrial action, the Gillard government last night evoked emergency powers under Section 424 of the Fair Work Act.
It asked the industrial umpire to order planes back in the air and staff back to work ahead of compulsory arbitration at a late-night hearing in Melbourne.
Proud Pies wrote:Joyce was a senior manager at Ansett before it went into administration in 2001.
Also managed Jetstar most recently. You'd reckon that's where the board was coming from when they appointed him.
Also, this bit.
From the day Qantas management decided to take on the unions, it became a philosophical fight about industrial relations rather than pay and conditions. And it was a fight that had been brewing since Leigh Clifford became the chairman. Clifford is renowned for his anti-union stance and played a similar tough role in breaking the unions in the mining industry when he worked for Rio Tinto.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
Proud Pies wrote:Joyce was a senior manager at Ansett before it went into administration in 2001.
Also managed Jetstar most recently. You'd reckon that's where the board was coming from when they appointed him.
Also, this bit.
From the day Qantas management decided to take on the unions, it became a philosophical fight about industrial relations rather than pay and conditions. And it was a fight that had been brewing since Leigh Clifford became the chairman. Clifford is renowned for his anti-union stance and played a similar tough role in breaking the unions in the mining industry when he worked for Rio Tinto.
says it all doesn't it. Sounds like the waterfront.
I hope all the children are safe. There will be unaccompanied minors between the ages of 12 and 15 left stranded at the tranship airports waiting the second leg of their journey. It is hard to comprehend how supposedly intelligent human beings on huge salaries would put children at risk like that, one day after we had a national awareness day for Child Safety in remembrance of Daniel Morcombe. Joyce should have given a weeks notice before grounding the planes.
Magpie Jack wrote:I hope all the children are safe. There will be unaccompanied minors between the ages of 12 and 15 left stranded at the tranship airports waiting the second leg of their journey. It is hard to comprehend how supposedly intelligent human beings on huge salaries would put children at risk like that, one day after we had a national awareness day for Child Safety in remembrance of Daniel Morcombe. Joyce should have given a weeks notice before grounding the planes.
Before we throw ALL the rocks at Joyce, how do you reckon the unions industrial campaign of rolling stoppages would have effected kids? Wouldn't there be the exact same situation with unaccompanied minors stranded after their flights were cancelled?
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
^ Well, you can't really blame Magpie Jack's concerns - less than a fortnight ago Qantas "lost the paperwork" for a 11 year old (or thereabouts) who was then left wandering around Hobart airport looking for his mum. Thankfully she found him. She refused Qantas' offer of a free booking and is considering her legal options.
"Don't worry" a Qantas employee told her cheerfully. "They don't go missing too often!"
"The greatest thing that could happen to the nation is when we get rid of all the media. Then we could live in peace and tranquillity, and no one would know anything." - Sir Joh Bjelke-Petersen
I just think that a lot of people are letting the issue of Joyce's pay rise completely cloud their judgement on this issue.
Play out the whole scenario again with Qantas vs the unions, but this time Joyce gets no payrise at all.
Are his actions in locking out the employees and refusing to negotiate with unions over what he considers to be exorbitant demands suddenly more acceptable? If so, I'd love an explanation of why.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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"The greatest thing that could happen to the nation is when we get rid of all the media. Then we could live in peace and tranquillity, and no one would know anything." - Sir Joh Bjelke-Petersen
^^ they will get their qantas money back so it isn't double dipping as they are being offered discounted fares.
PS I think if ppl want a discount airline then fair enough but Qants already have one.
I am disgusted in Joyce making Qantas into to a Ryan Air. A lot of people liked flying Qantas for what it stands for and paying a little extra to get it.
Airline safety should never be leverage in a union and company dispute in an airline of all businesses!
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