Who do we draft at 6 & 10 and why?

[swoop42]

Boyd, Kelly, Billings, Aish and Scharenberg have long been touted as the obvious choices for the top 5 players in this years draft.

One suspects Hine knew for quite sometime there was a distinct possibility another name would emerge from that pack to take there place within the top 5 and it's why he was so keen on upgrading to pick 6 and take whoever slides from those five names.

In short we will take one of the names above at pick 6 likely to be either Aish or Scharenberg.

The only other scenario that may play out is if Bontempelli were to be taken by the dogs at pick 4 which has been rumoured and not above the realms of possibility given they surprised some by taking Stringer last year within the top 10.

As alluded to by Woftam I do wonder if all the noise regarding our supposed keen interest in Bontempelli was nothing more than mind games being played out by Hine.

Does he feel that the Western Bulldogs recruiter is susceptible to outside influences as i distinctly remember last year with Stringer that clubs outside the top 10 selections were talking him up and hoping that the injury concerns surrounding him meant he would slide to them.

I'm probably clutching at straws here but regardless if the dogs were to take Bontempelli at 4 and Kade K was to also go within the top 5 then suddenly we have the choice between two sliders long considered top 5 talents.

We can't lose and who knows the chance of getting both Scharenberg and Aish suddenly isn't as far fetched as it sounds.

[Neil Appleby]

Well, over the weekend I've gone full circle and come back to my initial picks: Bontempelli & KK. I know we've read reports about sliding interest in this and that player, but surely there's a lot of smoke and mirrors going on?

Scharenberg looks a beauty too but I go back to our real needs. Our midget midfield needs another Pendlebury type. By that I mean a big bodied mid; hell we have so many midgets between 175-180 running through there. They did OK I guess, but against the likes of Hawthorn and Freo we were sadly exposed. So was the back-line that boasts only one real elite foot-skill player in Reid.

Thus I go back to a big bodied, fleet of foot mid with a raking kick and a tall, mobile back who is good overhead and has great skills.

Hine will be trying for this type I think. KK will probably go early and so may Bontempelli......who knows?

[Captain_MyCaptain]

Boyd, Kelly, Billings, Aish and Scharenberg have long been touted as the obvious choices for the top 5 players in this years draft.

One suspects Hine knew for quite sometime there was a distinct possibility another name would emerge from that pack to take there place within the top 5 and it's why he was so keen on upgrading to pick 6 and take whoever slides from those five names.

In short we will take one of the names above at pick 6 likely to be either Aish or Scharenberg.

The only other scenario that may play out is if Bontempelli were to be taken by the dogs at pick 4 which has been rumoured and not above the realms of possibility given they surprised some by taking Stringer last year within the top 10.

As alluded to by Woftam I do wonder if all the noise regarding our supposed keen interest in Bontempelli was nothing more than mind games being played out by Hine.

Does he feel that the Western Bulldogs recruiter is susceptible to outside influences as i distinctly remember last year with Stringer that clubs outside the top 10 selections were talking him up and hoping that the injury concerns surrounding him meant he would slide to them.

I'm probably clutching at straws here but regardless if the dogs were to take Bontempelli at 4 and Kade K was to also go within the top 5 then suddenly we have the choice between two sliders long considered top 5 talents.

We can't lose and who knows the chance of getting both Scharenberg and Aish suddenly isn't as far fetched as it sounds.

Good post Swoop. Just hope the Dogs supporters/recruiters don't read it.

Seriously though, Bontempelli is a gun but so is Scharenberg, not to mention KK.
As far as their U18 national stats go KK is an absolute standout.
Briefly-
KK amassed 137 disposals over 5 games versus Scharenberg 108. Both have a disposal efficiency of 75 p/cent. Bontempelli coming in third with 56 disposals at 78 p/cent over 4 games.
So what does all the stats mean? To me it doesn't mean much except that they are all very good junior footballers.
If the Dogs take any of those 3 do we lose out? Obviously not. Hine will have his preference as we have ours. Injuries? Humbug.
I've changed my mind more times than a pregnant woman, so for me,
Scharenberg and pick 10, fingers crossed, drum roll... Aish.
Stats stats stats.

Hine special; Willsmore.
Cheers.

[Harrysz]

Pick 6 - one of Scharenberg and Bontimpelli
Pick 10 - one of Lennon and Salem

[gurugeoff]

for me, Freeman at 6, to ensure we get him. Then at ten, there will be some really good players left, so we will get another really good player.
Doesn't really matter who it is - i think everyone has been picked at some stage on this board.

[watt price tully]

Quite simply we need to keep an eye on the feet, while having an ear to the ground .

Way too much flexibility required for the likes of my aging body.

Let alone the monkey off my back

[Captain_MyCaptain]

for me, Freeman at 6, to ensure we get him. Then at ten, there will be some really good players left, so we will get another really good player.
Doesn't really matter who it is - i think everyone has been picked at some stage on this board.

Good strategy. Rule out North pick 8. Only leaves Briz and Melb.
Most likely gives us Scharenberg/Bont/Lennon, perhaps Aish or Salem...arrrg.

[swoop42]

I can't see us taking Freeman at pick 6 with I'm sure players who Hine ranks much higher still available.

My best guest is that we'll take Scharenberg at pick 6 even if Aish is available as well as there's greater chance he might last to pick 10 with continual whispers that lower profile clubs like the dogs, demons and lions will overlook him because of the go home factor.

I'm sure Hine thinks the absolute opposite but for some reason I'm not completely sold on Aish.

Going by some reports he didn't live up to all the hype at the champs and is seen as an outside player who isn't a big possession winner albeit one who uses the ball very well when he does have it.

Of course plenty of others will disagree with that.

I'll leave it to Hine to find us a couple of gems.

[Stupied]

I can't see us taking Freeman at pick 6 with I'm sure players who Hine ranks much higher still available.

My best guest is that we'll take Scharenberg at pick 6 even if Aish is available as well as there's greater chance he might last to pick 10 with continual whispers that lower profile clubs like the dogs, demons and lions will overlook him because of the go home factor.

I'm sure Hine thinks the absolute opposite but for some reason I'm not completely sold on Aish.

Going by some reports he didn't live up to all the hype at the champs and is seen as an outside player who isn't a big possession winner albeit one who uses the ball very well when he does have it.

Of course plenty of others will disagree with that.

I'll leave it to Hine to find us a couple of gems.

Agree on the likelihood of Aish being available at 10. As far as Aish being too outside, I personally think that we need a predominantly outside mid to compliment our wealth of inside mids. Yeah, he didn't live up to the hype at the championships, but take into account he was not long back from shoulder surgery, and the fact that had previously been competing in the SANFL against men, and from all accounts was dominating.

I wasn't even contemplating Aish being available as well as Scharenberg for us a few days ago, but now it looks like we have a shot at both. It would be bloody amazing if we did manage to get them both, as I rate both of them as top 5 talent.

[Lazza]

[MagpieBat]

Agree on the likelihood of Aish being available at 10. As far as Aish being too outside, I personally think that we need a predominantly outside mid to compliment our wealth of inside mids. Yeah, he didn't live up to the hype at the championships, but take into account he was not long back from shoulder surgery, and the fact that had previously been competing in the SANFL against men, and from all accounts was dominating.

He was also good enough to be copping tags this year, such as in the SANFL grand final this year. I watched the U-18 champs game vs Vic Metro and Salem was tagging him that day as well.

There's an article in today's News Limited papers on him. This bit caught my eye...

DAVID Shepherd was in his classroom at Concordia College one morning when a Year 9 student named James Aish walked in with a big smile on his face.

Shepherd was Aish's home class teacher and PE teacher who knew him better than most, and realised something was up but didn't bother asking.

"He didn't say anything the whole time, then waited until every other student had left the room and came up to me and said 'Hey Shep, keep this to yourself, but check this out'."

Aish, who was just 15 at the time, was holding a letter from Collingwood champion Nathan Buckley.

"I think James had written to him and Buckley wrote back as encouragement, but he didn't want to make a big deal of it in front of everyone and asked me to keep it to myself which I'm doing until now I suppose," Shepherd said.

That is the sort of kid Aish is.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl ... 6761924720

Nice.

Young James sounds like he'd enjoy playing under Nathan, then...

[Captain_MyCaptain]

I can't see us taking Freeman at pick 6 with I'm sure players who Hine ranks much higher still available.

My best guest is that we'll take Scharenberg at pick 6 even if Aish is available as well as there's greater chance he might last to pick 10 with continual whispers that lower profile clubs like the dogs, demons and lions will overlook him because of the go home factor.

I'm sure Hine thinks the absolute opposite but for some reason I'm not completely sold on Aish.

Going by some reports he didn't live up to all the hype at the champs and is seen as an outside player who isn't a big possession winner albeit one who uses the ball very well when he does have it.

Of course plenty of others will disagree with that.

I'll leave it to Hine to find us a couple of gems.

Agree on the likelihood of Aish being available at 10. As far as Aish being too outside, I personally think that we need a predominantly outside mid to compliment our wealth of inside mids. Yeah, he didn't live up to the hype at the championships, but take into account he was not long back from shoulder surgery, and the fact that had previously been competing in the SANFL against men, and from all accounts was dominating.

I wasn't even contemplating Aish being available as well as Scharenberg for us a few days ago, but now it looks like we have a shot at both. It would be bloody amazing if we did manage to get them both, as I rate both of them as top 5 talent.

U18 Champs.
J. Aish --- 5 matches , 45 kicks, 34 handballs, 79 disposals at 87.3 p/cent efficiency is still very good let alone being tagged and recovering from a shoulder injury. Shouldn't put us off from getting him.

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