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[The Boy Who Cried Wolf]

It's all well and good citing examples of players excelling in their positions at what is now regarded as under height, but the fact is that on average, players in all positions are taller than they were 20 years ago.
A special type of player can excel as a forward regardless of height (Fev for example), but your average tall forward will struggle a bit giving away those extra cm's.

Height isn't the be all and end all, but it sure as shit helps when you're a KPF.

Bingo.

Brereton was a 186cm CHF. Nowdays he wouldn't get drafted. 186 cm is a medium midfielder or flanker.

Royce hart was 185cm. Same height as Swanny.

KP backs are getting taller and maintaining agility with the increasing height. You can get away with being a pure leading forward at 192cm or under as long as you aren't the key focus but a 3rd tall.( See Darling or Gunston) When teams have quick KP backs who are around 200cm tall (Keeffe is 203cm) then munchkins are outgunned.

This all may be well and true but as with everything in life each individual is unique and therefore it must and can only be judged on a case by case basis.

[jackcass]

It's all well and good citing examples of players excelling in their positions at what is now regarded as under height, but the fact is that on average, players in all positions are taller than they were 20 years ago.
A special type of player can excel as a forward regardless of height (Fev for example), but your average tall forward will struggle a bit giving away those extra cm's.

Height isn't the be all and end all, but it sure as shit helps when you're a KPF.

Bingo.

Brereton was a 186cm CHF. Nowdays he wouldn't get drafted. 186 cm is a medium midfielder or flanker.

Royce hart was 185cm. Same height as Swanny.

KP backs are getting taller and maintaining agility with the increasing height. You can get away with being a pure leading forward at 192cm or under as long as you aren't the key focus but a 3rd tall.( See Darling or Gunston) When teams have quick KP backs who are around 200cm tall (Keeffe is 203cm) then munchkins are outgunned.

This all may be well and true but as with everything in life each individual is unique and therefore it must and can only be judged on a case by case basis.

To quote... "Bingo"

Nobody is saying he'll make it as a KPF, just querying why people seem to discount the possibility because he's 2cm shorter than most current KPFs. As I've said previously, with his pace, ground ball skills, and desire to be a midfielder, I'd like to see him develop into a wingman as he'd provide a very challenging matchup for opposition teams. At the least, could become a very good 3rd tall forward.

[RudeBoy]

Bingo.

Brereton was a 186cm CHF. Nowdays he wouldn't get drafted. 186 cm is a medium midfielder or flanker.

Royce hart was 185cm. Same height as Swanny.

KP backs are getting taller and maintaining agility with the increasing height. You can get away with being a pure leading forward at 192cm or under as long as you aren't the key focus but a 3rd tall.( See Darling or Gunston) When teams have quick KP backs who are around 200cm tall (Keeffe is 203cm) then munchkins are outgunned.

This all may be well and true but as with everything in life each individual is unique and therefore it must and can only be judged on a case by case basis.

To quote... "Bingo"

Nobody is saying he'll make it as a KPF, just querying why people seem to discount the possibility because he's 2cm shorter than most current KPFs. As I've said previously, with his pace, ground ball skills, and desire to be a midfielder, I'd like to see him develop into a wingman as he'd provide a very challenging matchup for opposition teams. At the least, could become a very good 3rd tall forward.

I agree. On the wing running forward would be perfect for him. In the longer term, provided he delivers on some of his enormous potential, it would be great to see him become an on-baller a la Adam Goodes. But let's not get ahead of ourselves. We selected him at pick 77 and he hasn't even completed his first pre-season training yet. However..........

[Dave The Man]

This all may be well and true but as with everything in life each individual is unique and therefore it must and can only be judged on a case by case basis.

To quote... "Bingo"

Nobody is saying he'll make it as a KPF, just querying why people seem to discount the possibility because he's 2cm shorter than most current KPFs. As I've said previously, with his pace, ground ball skills, and desire to be a midfielder, I'd like to see him develop into a wingman as he'd provide a very challenging matchup for opposition teams. At the least, could become a very good 3rd tall forward.

I agree. On the wing running forward would be perfect for him. In the longer term, provided he delivers on some of his enormous potential, it would be great to see him become an on-baller a la Adam Goodes. But let's not get ahead of ourselves. We selected him at pick 77 and he hasn't even completed his first pre-season training yet. However..........

Him only playing that 1 season of AFL just shows how much upside Possibly could be there