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derkd wrote:I could do what many do and just lay into Essendon because 'we hate the old enemy' but the more I have studied this. The more it just dose not sit right with me. And I say this as a defender of the AFL code, taking my pro-Collingwood hat off.
Would you take someone to court and say, their is a strong chance they might steal my car so throw them in jail? Or this person has brought humanity into disrepute so jail him???
Seriously, where is the clear cut evidence of doping that took place?? If they (ASADA or the AFL) have it then hurry up and lay charges against players or officials at the club. All that is currently happening is dragging the whole code though the mud.
Like I say, I write this with no love for Essendon or Hird. But I sense of the rule of democratic law.
Is Jobe Watson saying on national TV that he was injected with AOD-964 not enough evidence for you?
The AFL aren't at fault for dragging it so slowly through the mud, its WADA/ASADA.
They could have called Dank in months ago but waited until the eve of the season.
'Collingwood are the Bradmans of Football'
The Herald - 1930
derkd wrote:I could do what many do and just lay into Essendon because 'we hate the old enemy' but the more I have studied this. The more it just dose not sit right with me. And I say this as a defender of the AFL code, taking my pro-Collingwood hat off.
Would you take someone to court and say, their is a strong chance they might steal my car so throw them in jail? Or this person has brought humanity into disrepute so jail him???
Seriously, where is the clear cut evidence of doping that took place?? If they (ASADA or the AFL) have it then hurry up and lay charges against players or officials at the club. All that is currently happening is dragging the whole code though the mud.
Like I say, I write this with no love for Essendon or Hird. But I sense of the rule of democratic law.
Is Jobe Watson saying on national TV that he was injected with AOD-964 not enough evidence for you?
The AFL aren't at fault for dragging it so slowly through the mud, its WADA/ASADA.
They could have called Dank in months ago but waited until the eve of the season.
If I am correct Jobe said he 'thinks' he was injected with it. No one is quite sure what they were or were not injected with. And what was or was not legal or banned. At any rate... Does it not all come back to my same point if this matter was so clearly cut 'illegal' where are the charges?
If the pies got stung for something like this I would not want it dragging on year after year.
derkd wrote:I could do what many do and just lay into Essendon because 'we hate the old enemy' but the more I have studied this. The more it just dose not sit right with me. And I say this as a defender of the AFL code, taking my pro-Collingwood hat off.
Would you take someone to court and say, their is a strong chance they might steal my car so throw them in jail? Or this person has brought humanity into disrepute so jail him???
Seriously, where is the clear cut evidence of doping that took place?? If they (ASADA or the AFL) have it then hurry up and lay charges against players or officials at the club. All that is currently happening is dragging the whole code though the mud.
Like I say, I write this with no love for Essendon or Hird. But I sense of the rule of democratic law.
Is Jobe Watson saying on national TV that he was injected with AOD-964 not enough evidence for you?
The AFL aren't at fault for dragging it so slowly through the mud, its WADA/ASADA.
They could have called Dank in months ago but waited until the eve of the season.
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THIS.
Why wait SO long to interview Dank? I mean 13 bloody months?
A tortoise could walk from Melbourne to Mildura faster than that...... :roll
derkd wrote:
Is Jobe Watson saying on national TV that he was injected with AOD-964 not enough evidence for you?
The AFL aren't at fault for dragging it so slowly through the mud, its WADA/ASADA.
They could have called Dank in months ago but waited until the eve of the season.
If I am correct Jobe said he 'thinks' he was injected with it. No one is quite sure what they were or were not injected with. And what was or was not legal or banned. At any rate... Does it not all come back to my same point if this matter was so clearly cut 'illegal' where are the charges?
If the pies got stung for something like this I would not want it dragging on year after year.
The charges are coming. Infraction notices will be issued. Dank holds the key but he has indicated that he won't show and it'll become a massive legal stoush. It's gunna be a long drawn out process which will derail the bombers season 2014 and there will be no winners only losers.
'Collingwood are the Bradmans of Football'
The Herald - 1930
Damien wrote:The charges are coming. Infraction notices will be issued. Dank holds the key but he has indicated that he won't show and it'll become a massive legal stoush. It's gunna be a long drawn out process which will derail the bombers season 2014 and there will be no winners only losers.
Don't know if he really knows or not but just this afternoon, Dank said that there wouldn't be any infraction notices issued to Essenscum players....
Damien wrote:Just shows the ego of the man. He thinks the individual is bigger than the club after all they've done/are doing for him. Enjoy the cheese in France James and Tanya.
Could you believe that the dumb Essenscum members are paying for Hird to be in France for 4 months?? What utter bloody fools......
I just heard on the News,that pretty boy is getting around ONE MILLION this year, for doing sweet bugger all, sitting on his arse, holidays. My god, are essendoper fans so stupid, why don't they just sack this overrated wanker coach and move on, Thommo can do the job better than Hird anyway. !
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Damien wrote:Just shows the ego of the man. He thinks the individual is bigger than the club after all they've done/are doing for him. Enjoy the cheese in France James and Tanya.
Could you believe that the dumb Essenscum members are paying for Hird to be in France for 4 months?? What utter bloody fools......
I just heard on the News,that pretty boy is getting around ONE MILLION this year, for doing sweet bugger all, sitting on his arse, holidays. My god, are essendoper fans so stupid, why don't they just sack this overrated wanker coach and move on, Thommo can do the job better than Hird anyway. !
As much as I despise them it is a bit sad that probably their favourite son of all time is going to be alienated from their club forever at the end of this whole sorry saga.
'Collingwood are the Bradmans of Football'
The Herald - 1930
Damien wrote:Just shows the ego of the man. He thinks the individual is bigger than the club after all they've done/are doing for him. Enjoy the cheese in France James and Tanya.
Could you believe that the dumb Essenscum members are paying for Hird to be in France for 4 months?? What utter bloody fools......
I just heard on the News,that pretty boy is getting around ONE MILLION this year, for doing sweet bugger all, sitting on his arse, holidays. My god, are essendoper fans so stupid, why don't they just sack this overrated wanker coach and move on, Thommo can do the job better than Hird anyway. !
Couldn't be much more stupid then extending a coaches contract who can't coach by a couple of years...
I can't really blame Tania for sticking up for her husband- I'd want my wife to do the same.
The fact is Hird is a scapgoat- although far from a completely blameless one.
Despite his faults- the rotund Cypriot did the only thing he could given the situation- hang Hird out to dry for the sake of the greater good- the AFL.
The AFL does not want a full scale investigation into the 'supplements' programs at clubs, because if this were the case it is likely all clubs would be in breach of ASADA/WADA codes.
Let's not fool ourselves that Essendope was the only club experimenting.
They were warned not to employ Dank, they ignored the advice- here lies the arrogance of Hird- he basically thumbed his nose at the powers that be and sailed too close to the wind. Shit was about to hit the fan and Dimi had to do something.
Choice 1- full scale investigation into all 18 clubs sports science departments- resulting in competition folding
Choice 2- Throw an AFL goldan child to the wolves and let everything continue as normal.
Hird and his wife's biggest mistake is to think that the general public actually care more about him than the AFL competition.
Added to the Carlolton dodgy salary cap ine=vestments with a fromer board member and the haircuts- and it almost makes last weeks loss seem a distant memory.
Go Pies!
