Post Match v Cats...all comments here thanks!

watt price tully · Post by **watt price tully** » Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:18 pm

Good effort but not good enough.

Great delivery to Hawkins. The same can't be said for Cloke.

Swan is hampered. So too is Pendlebury.

Toovey is still getting match fit.

Better game from Luke Ball.

Grundy is still far too raw & I think the club made a serious mistake in not having one more Ruck in the Squad (with all due respect to Hudson). Too much for him to do alone at such a young age.

White - much better game.

Fasolo did well in defence given how much the Cats were able to drive it forward. One mucked up kick in is not the end of the world.

We looked more tired after half time.

swoop42 · Post by **swoop42** » Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:19 pm

AN_Inkling wrote:I think the full backs were the difference in the game. Lonergan was excellent on Cloke, whereas Hawkins got on top of Frost who put in a good effort but simply isn't strong enough one on one and makes a few too many simple errors for a full back. We need Brown back asap.

Overall a good performance from us tonight. I've said all along that this season will be a slow build for us, and tonight was about what I expected.

He was playing his 5th game.

He'll only improve.

Mugwump · Post by **Mugwump** » Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:19 pm

A hard fought performance by a badly undermanned team. A few specifics :

- Elliott is turning into a matchwinner. An amazing 5-goal performance against this mob.
- We cannot leave Grundy so exposed all night in the ruck. the poor kid could hardly lift his legs at the end, and gave away several critical frees as a result (second in a week right in front of goal)
- I wonder whether we did the right thing re-signing Cloke at the price we paid. He's a great player, but the modern game is not kind to stay near home Full forwards.
- Swan is surely injured, or we have hit the age decline very suddenly
- Put Reid and Brown in that team and we win, which is a good performance against a contender side.
- Those who said that Maxy was finished and should be dropped shoudl themselves take a spell in the posting twos
- I see what Bucks is trying to do - and it could work - but only if we develop the composure and skills to execute it under pressure.
- I usually defend umpiring, but there were a few shockers tonight that favoured the cats.
- White showed his potential value for the first time tonight.

Overall, I'm happy and grateful that the boys put in so much, it was a creditable performance and only skill errors cost us in the end.

pietillidie · Post by **pietillidie** » Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:20 pm

Forget the scoreboard; I'd be happy to watch a few weeks in a row like this win or lose. The belief will follow that sort of intensity. Throw in another big backman and a rejigged forward line and we have a lot to build on.

collie dog · Post by **collie dog** » Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:20 pm

The_Staunton wrote:
Just scrappy battlers without a gameplan, just awful to watch right now...

Spot on. But that is true of all the footy this season. Seriously if it wasn't for Hawthorn's first half effort last night I would say the standard of footy this season is the worst I have seen in at least 20 years. And I am serious! I thought tonight's was a terrible game skillwise for both sides.

It's time the fooball brains at clubs recaptured our game that has been hijacked by the fitness gurus.

And PLEASE, the kicking for goals by most sides this season is shameful. I mean really shameful! Are these professionals or not?

Piesnchess · Post by **Piesnchess** » Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:20 pm

When was the last time we got a FREE KICK on our forward line by the way ??

Big T · Post by **Big T** » Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:20 pm

Good effort. We are building.

Cloke is costing us big time. When he wakes up we will start winning. Let's hope it happens before October.

STOKA35 · Post by **STOKA35** » Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:21 pm

Needed more from cloke and white, umpiring had decisions favor the cats

swoop42 · Post by **swoop42** » Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:21 pm

I want to see a forward line consisting of Elliott, Fasolo and Kennedy as our small options next week.

We need some more skill and x-factor up there.

Can't wait until Reid is back.

SteveH67 · Post by **SteveH67** » Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:21 pm

[quote="Brown26"]We played well for large parts of the game. Put Reid in to help Cloke (White is a great third tall, not a second tall), Brown down back and a fit Swan and we look a lot better. Pendles, Beams, Maxy all down the race during the game, better with those guys fit and firing. Put that into perspective and we win.

We'll get better as the season goes on, make no mistake (as MM would say) about it. We improve a bit with out disposal and we win

And as for the umpiring, give us a first quarter without being raped and we win.

We'll take them the second time we play them. We'll beat Richmond and North and Carlton and possible Essendon, be 5-2 or 4-3 at the break, win the next 5 and take the fight to the Hawks at 10-2 or 9-3 and in to 8. We're tracking ok for a team full of kids IMO.

A holding the ball free in the last 3 minutes (instead of made up frees against up) and we win...

- Ben[/quote]

The stupid draw means, we wont get a 2nd crack this year, unless we play them in the finals.

AN_Inkling · Post by **AN_Inkling** » Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:21 pm

Deja Vu wrote:Endeavour was great. Defensively we are getting better. I am still worried that we have no system when moving the ball forward. I just don't know what style of game we are trying to play.

And we are world champs at kicking the ball to the leading players feet. Mono one does it better than us

We haven't had a settled side for a long while and changes to personnel and game plan have yet to fully sink in. This doesn't happen overnight, and can't be embedded on the training track. It's going to take weeks to really see if we've improved on last year. The important thing is that the effort's there, with better team cohesion our skills will look much better.

One thing for certain: those saying we are one of the least skilled sides in the comp are flat out wrong.

Flashman · Post by **Flashman** » Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:22 pm

I agree he was scragged but Cloke had his share of chances too but he fluffed and fumbled every bloody time and never looked close to it.

I doubt Eddie Smith could find a positive with his spuddy performance.

watt price tully · Post by **watt price tully** » Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:23 pm

swoop42 wrote:I want to see a forward line consisting of Elliott, Fasolo and Kennedy as our small options next week.

We need some more skill and x-factor up there.

Can't wait until Reid is back.

Krak would have been good out there tonight.

swoop42 · Post by **swoop42** » Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:23 pm

Lonergan owns Cloke because he can match him for strength.

Not many can.

Deja Vu · Post by **Deja Vu** » Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:25 pm

swoop42 wrote:Lonergan owns Cloke because he can match him for strength.

Not many can.

And he has help from the umpires

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