Things that make you go.......WTF?
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- David
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Do you know what's even sicker than animal brothels? Denmark also has a trade in which helpless animals are kept in cramped conditions, shoved in terror into warehouses to be killed and mutilated, before their body parts are sold off on the market for people to do whatever they please with. The people who do this actually make a lot of money at the expense of these poor, helpless creatures and there's no law in place to stop them.
Apparently it happens in Australia, too. If you want to read more about it, click on this link (warning: contains graphic images of dismembered animals):
http://bit.ly/1qm5q4L
Apparently it happens in Australia, too. If you want to read more about it, click on this link (warning: contains graphic images of dismembered animals):
http://bit.ly/1qm5q4L
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Ever actually been out on a farm where sheep and cattle are raised? If you think that is worse than being used as a **** toy you have a messed up perspective my friend.David wrote:Do you know what's even sicker than animal brothels? Denmark also has a trade in which helpless animals are kept in cramped conditions, shoved in terror into warehouses to be killed and mutilated, before their body parts are sold off on the market for people to do whatever they please with. The people who do this actually make a lot of money at the expense of these poor, helpless creatures and there's no law in place to stop them.
Apparently it happens in Australia, too. If you want to read more about it, click on this link (warning: contains graphic images of dismembered animals):
http://bit.ly/1qm5q4L
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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Look at the photo if you can!David wrote:Do you know what's even sicker than animal brothels? Denmark also has a trade in which helpless animals are kept in cramped conditions, shoved in terror into warehouses to be killed and mutilated, before their body parts are sold off on the market for people to do whatever they please with. The people who do this actually make a lot of money at the expense of these poor, helpless creatures and there's no law in place to stop them.
Apparently it happens in Australia, too. If you want to read more about it, click on this link (warning: contains graphic images of dismembered animals):
http://bit.ly/1qm5q4L
No bugger you I am not going to post it. It's a photo of a German Shepard with it's two front legs ducktaped back over it's back and it's mouth taped shut as well waiting for the next customer.
If you want to see it I'll PM it to you.
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Ta for that.
that's damn sick. Paying money to root a tied up animal and then argue that the animal is so used to being violated that it likes it..................Nup, words fail me to describe what I feel about people like that.
that's damn sick. Paying money to root a tied up animal and then argue that the animal is so used to being violated that it likes it..................Nup, words fail me to describe what I feel about people like that.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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What you (and 1061) are doing is comparing the most benign example of something with the most disturbing example of another. The way many meat animals (and battery hens, as TP mentioned) are raised and slaughtered is obviously inhumane; certainly not something you'd wish upon a human being.stui magpie wrote:Ever actually been out on a farm where sheep and cattle are raised? If you think that is worse than being used as a **** toy you have a messed up perspective my friend.David wrote:Do you know what's even sicker than animal brothels? Denmark also has a trade in which helpless animals are kept in cramped conditions, shoved in terror into warehouses to be killed and mutilated, before their body parts are sold off on the market for people to do whatever they please with. The people who do this actually make a lot of money at the expense of these poor, helpless creatures and there's no law in place to stop them.
Apparently it happens in Australia, too. If you want to read more about it, click on this link (warning: contains graphic images of dismembered animals):
http://bit.ly/1qm5q4L
I'm no zoophile, obviously, and it's a bizarre thing to defend in any context, but the simple fact is that animal treatment in the meat industry is far, far worse than some of the milder forms of human/animal sexual contact (use some imagination).
I'd be fine if this proposal were intended just to ban the brothels and other sexual exploitation of animals, but its scope suggests an old-fashioned human sexual morality law. I think we need a more utilitarian, considered approach to this. That should be the gold standard for laws, no matter how wacky or ire-provoking their subject matter is, because the alternative is that people who pose no harm to society get convicted.
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So we shouldn't chase Pedophiles until we can stop all abuse children endure?David wrote:What you (and 1061) are doing is comparing the most benign example of something with the most disturbing example of another. The way many meat animals (and battery hens, as TP mentioned) are raised and slaughtered is obviously inhumane; certainly not something you'd wish upon a human being.stui magpie wrote:Ever actually been out on a farm where sheep and cattle are raised? If you think that is worse than being used as a **** toy you have a messed up perspective my friend.David wrote:Do you know what's even sicker than animal brothels? Denmark also has a trade in which helpless animals are kept in cramped conditions, shoved in terror into warehouses to be killed and mutilated, before their body parts are sold off on the market for people to do whatever they please with. The people who do this actually make a lot of money at the expense of these poor, helpless creatures and there's no law in place to stop them.
Apparently it happens in Australia, too. If you want to read more about it, click on this link (warning: contains graphic images of dismembered animals):
http://bit.ly/1qm5q4L
I'm no zoophile, obviously, and it's a bizarre thing to defend in any context, but the simple fact is that animal treatment in the meat industry is far, far worse than some of the milder forms of human/animal sexual contact (use some imagination).
I'd be fine if this proposal were intended just to ban the brothels and other sexual exploitation of animals, but its scope suggests an old-fashioned human sexual morality law. I think we need a more utilitarian, considered approach to this. That should be the gold standard for laws, no matter how wacky or ire-provoking their subject matter is, because the alternative is that people who pose no harm to society get convicted.
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Omfg omfg omfg milder forms of human/animal sexual conduct WTF!
David that's just ridiculous, obscene, disgusting, revolting
There should be no, none, nada, full damn stop
And please, I didn't need that description, now I just feel sick.
What the **** is it with humans that they think that can do what they like to anything they like. Mankind disgusts me. No wonder the world is going to hell
David that's just ridiculous, obscene, disgusting, revolting
There should be no, none, nada, full damn stop
And please, I didn't need that description, now I just feel sick.
What the **** is it with humans that they think that can do what they like to anything they like. Mankind disgusts me. No wonder the world is going to hell
You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either!
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Yeah I detest the way some people have this notion that all plants and animals exist purely to be subservient to the needs of humans. Where does this mindset come from that elevates some people away from the rest of nature? Why do some people think that the relationship between humans and all plants and other animals is that we have dominion over them?
Now where did I read this bullshit??
Now where did I read this bullshit??
- stui magpie
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cows, sheep, pigs, chickens are bred and raised specifically to provide food and clothing (wool and leather). In that way they're no different to a paddock full of wheat. They're grown for a purpose.
Yes, they should be treated well while they're alive and not cruelly, but if we didn't eat them they wouldn't exist. They would have died out.
Cows and Sheep spend their lives wandering round pastures eating and watching time go past. They aren't the sharpest tools in the shed so I doubt they actually get too stressed when herded into the abattoir, as long as the death is quick.
To elaborate on how dumb they are, several years ago I was doing an eco cruise on the Daintree river with a bloke for a guide who washed when it rained. I spotted two angus cattle drinking side by side from the river and asked the guide if they weren't aware of the danger from Crocs.
His response was that they were the dumbest animals on earth, he'd seen a saltie take a cow from the river bank while the other one beside it looked on, then continued drinking.
By all means lets not be unnecessarily cruel, but lets not anthromorphise them either.
Yes, they should be treated well while they're alive and not cruelly, but if we didn't eat them they wouldn't exist. They would have died out.
Cows and Sheep spend their lives wandering round pastures eating and watching time go past. They aren't the sharpest tools in the shed so I doubt they actually get too stressed when herded into the abattoir, as long as the death is quick.
To elaborate on how dumb they are, several years ago I was doing an eco cruise on the Daintree river with a bloke for a guide who washed when it rained. I spotted two angus cattle drinking side by side from the river and asked the guide if they weren't aware of the danger from Crocs.
His response was that they were the dumbest animals on earth, he'd seen a saltie take a cow from the river bank while the other one beside it looked on, then continued drinking.
By all means lets not be unnecessarily cruel, but lets not anthromorphise them either.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.