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What, no more chasing tail, patting pussy or spanking the monkey!

What the hell is my trouser snake going to do in the afternoons?
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Here you go 3.14159, you can just pretend like these perfectly sane and grounded individuals.

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-l ... 6882334710
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Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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"Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange
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What was done to them was considered right at the time, but was proven wrong because despite other differences, they were still people.
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^ I suspect that we'll be saying something similar about our treatment of animals in years to come. Either way, surely you'd agree that the welfare of animals is slightly more important than that of wheat!
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I never noticed that similarity.
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David wrote:^ I suspect that we'll be saying something similar about our treatment of animals in years to come. Either way, surely you'd agree that the welfare of animals is slightly more important than that of wheat!
Where your argument falls down is that the black slaves were considered inferior, but reasonably quickly showed that given education they were just as intelligent as anyone else.

When you can teach a pig to read, write and speak at 3rd grade level I'll happily swear off bacon.

And yes, the welfare of animals is significantly more important than that of grains.
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I'm certainly not arguing with you that animals are inferior to us in most capacities. But I'm not sure that inferiority should necessarily translate to "worthy of being kept in cages and being killed indiscriminately". From an ethical point of view, does it matter how smart they are? That's not a rhetorical question, I genuinely don't know the answer. I'm probably not the right person to argue this. Where's Morrigu? :mrgreen:
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Interesting source.
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David wrote:1061, you've just insulted me for no good reason.
David it's up to you if you choose to feel insulted, I refuse to discuss this any further with you and you have my reason!

I cannot and do not want too control how you feel or what you think.
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Why can't you do and do not want control how you feel or what you think?
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Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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stui magpie wrote:
David wrote:^ I suspect that we'll be saying something similar about our treatment of animals in years to come. Either way, surely you'd agree that the welfare of animals is slightly more important than that of wheat!
Where your argument falls down is that the black slaves were considered inferior, but reasonably quickly showed that given education they were just as intelligent as anyone else.

When you can teach a pig to read, write and speak at 3rd grade level I'll happily swear off bacon.

And yes, the welfare of animals is significantly more important than that of grains.
So you think it's ok to eat the retarded? Or babies? Or the demented elderly? Why does intelligence or cognitive ability predetermine the right to life?

FWIW I don't think egalitarianism is an inherently worthy philosophy but in the absence of a higher ideal it's probably the right way to look at most simple, non metasocial issues.
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