#17,#11 Dayne Beams
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Oh, jaysus, 35forever.
I had already decided that you were beyond my counsel. I won't be bothering again.
I can't give you a factual reason why 5 of our best left because that didn't happen.
You are including Kyle Martin in that five aren't you? One of our best, eh?
I don't think there are many people stupid enough to buy that. You aren't stupid enough to believe it.
Beams and Lumumba are leaving, to put it in a nutshell, because Buckley isn't prepared to compromise in his effort to improve the culture of the team, and these two have ultimately been found wanting. Lumumba did what he believed to be 'right' regardless of the impact it had on the team. That's noble in one sense but it isn't team first, obviously, so it becomes a problem for the coach. A problem Buckley solved. Considering that Lumumba was the one who experienced the flare-up and was told he'd be better off going somewhere else, Harry's attendance at the Copeland and his mostly stately speech shows that Bucks solved it pretty bloody well, actually. He's supposedly no man manager but he moved him on in such a way that Harry tried to be gracious in exit.
Beams is leaving because he wants more money, and has his shit in a bunch because we moved on Shaw last year, who has since been arrested pissed and proven Buckley made the right call. Not only is he a mercenary but he was callous enough to use his father's illness as an excuse. His non-attendance at the Copeland reveals his lack of character. He has been found out and we are better off without him, as long as we get adequate compensation.
One thing I will say about the likes of these two, Heater, Didak and Davis is that Buckley probably couldn't have coached them all to a flag. Getting a bunch of personalities like that to gel took a special talent, that of one Mick Malthouse, a guy that plenty of posters who now support Bucks like myself, John Wren, stui and many others did not want replaced by Buckley.
He was, though, and this means that the supporters need to move on, like the previously mentioned quickly did but others JUST APPARENTLY CAN'T, and it means that Buckley needs to move on too. Or, more accurately, move on players who won't fit in a Buckley squad, living a Buckley culture and playing a Buckley game plan. He, too, moved on quickly and all of the things he has done as a result are the things you are bitching about now.
That twelve you named up there is the nucleus for a decent SANFL side if the year was 2012. It isn't. I am 37 years old, 182cm and 105kg and I'm fairly confident I could outrun Alan Didak over any distance you wanted to nominate. Suggesting he'd be a part of the lethal nucleus of a 2015 side is as laughable as suggesting Kyle Martin was one of our best players.
There you are, a verbose block of text befitting the last reply I will ever honour your delusional garbage with.
I had already decided that you were beyond my counsel. I won't be bothering again.
I can't give you a factual reason why 5 of our best left because that didn't happen.
You are including Kyle Martin in that five aren't you? One of our best, eh?
I don't think there are many people stupid enough to buy that. You aren't stupid enough to believe it.
Beams and Lumumba are leaving, to put it in a nutshell, because Buckley isn't prepared to compromise in his effort to improve the culture of the team, and these two have ultimately been found wanting. Lumumba did what he believed to be 'right' regardless of the impact it had on the team. That's noble in one sense but it isn't team first, obviously, so it becomes a problem for the coach. A problem Buckley solved. Considering that Lumumba was the one who experienced the flare-up and was told he'd be better off going somewhere else, Harry's attendance at the Copeland and his mostly stately speech shows that Bucks solved it pretty bloody well, actually. He's supposedly no man manager but he moved him on in such a way that Harry tried to be gracious in exit.
Beams is leaving because he wants more money, and has his shit in a bunch because we moved on Shaw last year, who has since been arrested pissed and proven Buckley made the right call. Not only is he a mercenary but he was callous enough to use his father's illness as an excuse. His non-attendance at the Copeland reveals his lack of character. He has been found out and we are better off without him, as long as we get adequate compensation.
One thing I will say about the likes of these two, Heater, Didak and Davis is that Buckley probably couldn't have coached them all to a flag. Getting a bunch of personalities like that to gel took a special talent, that of one Mick Malthouse, a guy that plenty of posters who now support Bucks like myself, John Wren, stui and many others did not want replaced by Buckley.
He was, though, and this means that the supporters need to move on, like the previously mentioned quickly did but others JUST APPARENTLY CAN'T, and it means that Buckley needs to move on too. Or, more accurately, move on players who won't fit in a Buckley squad, living a Buckley culture and playing a Buckley game plan. He, too, moved on quickly and all of the things he has done as a result are the things you are bitching about now.
That twelve you named up there is the nucleus for a decent SANFL side if the year was 2012. It isn't. I am 37 years old, 182cm and 105kg and I'm fairly confident I could outrun Alan Didak over any distance you wanted to nominate. Suggesting he'd be a part of the lethal nucleus of a 2015 side is as laughable as suggesting Kyle Martin was one of our best players.
There you are, a verbose block of text befitting the last reply I will ever honour your delusional garbage with.
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I think you'll find that list of 32 recently delisted/retired/traded players I supplied 35 forever were, in fact, quite factual. 35 forever was claiming how Buckley is tearing our club apart. Do you agree with that when you look at that list of players? That's without contemplating the list of players we've brought in.Lone Ranger wrote:You are funny Fatui.
You refer to your opinions as "facts" but everyone elses opinion is gossip and insane imagination.
As far as my other comments about 35 forever are concerned, you won't find too many people here arguing against them. As far as I know, facts are things that are difficult to argue against. By all means, have a crack at arguing in favour of 35 forever's tripe, but remember, you lie down with dogs, you .....
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That post needs to be the reference point for any post by 35forever regarding Buckley. I bet he's working on some long full on post along the lines "that was 2005- dadadadada......................Breadcrawl wrote:Hahahahahahahaha
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Hang on a minute though, that would mean that 35 by his own logic was wrong, and he never ever promotes previous players to coach the club and we are all morons for supporting the current hierarchy. I'm confused.1eye wrote:That post needs to be the reference point for any post by 35forever regarding Buckley. I bet he's working on some long full on post along the lines "that was 2005- dadadadada......................Breadcrawl wrote:Hahahahahahahaha
Love it 1eye
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