Frost and Gault retained as rookies

John Wren · Post by **John Wren** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:55 am

frost (third year) and gault (second year) remain on the rookie list for 2015.

E · Post by E » Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:32 pm

how is it that Frost is allowed 3 years. I thought rookies only got 2 years. I suspect the injury to Sharenberg makes it possible to keep frost on the rookie list.

themonk · Post by **themonk** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:05 pm

E wrote:how is it that Frost is allowed 3 years. I thought rookies only got 2 years. I suspect the injury to Sharenberg makes it possible to keep frost on the rookie list.

Also, didn't Frost just sign a 2 year contract? what can you pay rookies?

jackcass · Post by **jackcass** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:18 pm

themonk wrote:
E wrote:how is it that Frost is allowed 3 years. I thought rookies only got 2 years. I suspect the injury to Sharenberg makes it possible to keep frost on the rookie list.
Also, didn't Frost just sign a 2 year contract? what can you pay rookies?

Salary and conditions dictated by the contract, not by being on a particular list.

jackcass · Post by **jackcass** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:19 pm

John Wren wrote:frost (third year) and gault (second year) remain on the rookie list for 2015.

You'd imagine that Frost would get upgraded to the senior list either via Scharenberg's LTI and midyear upgrade or to spot 40 if they don't use pick 85.

Bob Sugar · Post by **Bob Sugar** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:36 pm

I'd be more than a little pissed off if I were Frost, but good to see he's allowed us to it in turn giving us an extra pick in the draft.

Dave The Man · Post by **Dave The Man** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:39 pm

IF we pass at pick 75. Frost would be Elvated with that spot.

Just like we did with Huddo last 2 seasons

themonk · Post by **themonk** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:53 pm

jackcass wrote:
themonk wrote:
E wrote:how is it that Frost is allowed 3 years. I thought rookies only got 2 years. I suspect the injury to Sharenberg makes it possible to keep frost on the rookie list.
Also, didn't Frost just sign a 2 year contract? what can you pay rookies?
Salary and conditions dictated by the contract, not by being on a particular list.

Cool for the club as we are keeping our options open, harsh on Frosty though.

Post by **Jezza** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 4:16 pm

I must admit I'm quite amazed that Frost is still stuck on the rookie list. He's shown more than enough to be on our senior list.

roar · Post by **roar** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 4:27 pm

^^ But why would we give up the chance of grabbing someone we like in the draft when we can play and pay Frost as much as we like?

Post by **Jezza** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 4:36 pm

roar wrote:^^ But why would we give up the chance of grabbing someone we like in the draft when we can play and pay Frost as much as we like?

Yes you're quite right. I was talking more from the perspective of how Frost has performed on the field and how most players like him would have been elevated to the senior list now, without taking into account of what we may do in the national draft.

Clearly the club is tactically sound when it comes to list management. As Hine said we could find another Langdon or Marsh in the making so I like how they're approaching this.

Presti35 · Post by **Presti35** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:09 pm

Good move by the club.

Frost will be upgraded next year.

I don't see why he would be upset. I mean if you're drafted via the rookie draft, that's how it goes sometimes.

inxs88 · Post by **inxs88** » Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:26 pm

Smart play Dekka. Always good to possibly snare a "perceived top 40 pick" that somehow drops to the 80's. If not save the pick for December pre season draft

E · Post by E » Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:46 pm

jackcass wrote:
themonk wrote:
E wrote:how is it that Frost is allowed 3 years. I thought rookies only got 2 years. I suspect the injury to Sharenberg makes it possible to keep frost on the rookie list.
Also, didn't Frost just sign a 2 year contract? what can you pay rookies?
Salary and conditions dictated by the contract, not by being on a particular list.

A rookie listed contract can be paid up to the rookie scale and trhat salary is not counted toward TPP. If by contract he is paid more than the rookie scale, then it counts towards TPP. So we save an amount equal to the rookie scale for TPP purposes by leaving him on the rookie list. All things being equal, its better to have a person on the rookie list than on the main list PROVIDED that you can find a way to upgrade him. Others have noted that we have both the Sharenberg LTI and the mid season upgrade.

Post by **RudeBoy** » Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:40 am

E wrote:
jackcass wrote:
themonk wrote: Also, didn't Frost just sign a 2 year contract? what can you pay rookies?
Salary and conditions dictated by the contract, not by being on a particular list.
A rookie listed contract can be paid up to the rookie scale and trhat salary is not counted toward TPP. If by contract he is paid more than the rookie scale, then it counts towards TPP. So we save an amount equal to the rookie scale for TPP purposes by leaving him on the rookie list. All things being equal, its better to have a person on the rookie list than on the main list PROVIDED that you can find a way to upgrade him. Others have noted that we have both the Sharenberg LTI and the mid season upgrade.

Thanks for that info E. Sounds like the club has everything under control.

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