Post match: Pies lose another thriller. All comments please.

[jackcass]

WE really have to beat the weagles next week, no iffs or butts, it will be our version of Ports game tonight, an absolute, season defining, line in the sand game, we must come out breathing fire next week, no two ways about it. !

See, that's the attitude that sets people up for a fall.

[John Wren]

I'm a Bucks fan, but he coached badly tonight, including at the selection table.

Yep, alarm bells went off once I heard "no changes", then Williams out.



Dyso

they knew about this change for some time. it was as good a time as any to see again how the grundy/witts combo would work. they competed well. we lost it in other areas.

[pacmanOz]

Only saw the second half of the game. Pies were tremendous and extremely unlucky to lose. Port's last goal was from a deadset hands in the back in the pies defender. That is paid 100% but not tonight. Pies couldn't get a bounce or a free but what's new about that.

Sidebottom is a magician. There's no doubt about it.

Last 3 games losses by 7/10/3. Disappointing but character building. The side is coming together well. And yep, 2016 we'll give it a shake.

To all you death riders, go and support another team ya muppets.

Well said.

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Got to agree - I'm as gutted as the rest of you but you can't fault our effort and the improvement in our game plan this year. Previous seasons we would have put up the white flag when we were so far done at 1/4 time.

The big concern for me is the attitude of Elliot - his reaction to JDG kicking that soccer goal was poor - he needs a dose of reality at the moment.

We're not far away my friends - just need a dose of luck and a bit of polish and we will go close to winning a flag (maybe even this year).

[thompsoc]

WE really have to beat the weagles next week, no iffs or butts, it will be our version of Ports game tonight, an absolute, season defining, line in the sand game, we must come out breathing fire next week, no two ways about it. !

See, that's the attitude that sets people up for a fall.

Can't afford another honourable loss.
This isn't cricket.
It is life and death!

[Piesnchess]

WE really have to beat the weagles next week, no iffs or butts, it will be our version of Ports game tonight, an absolute, season defining, line in the sand game, we must come out breathing fire next week, no two ways about it. !

See, that's the attitude that sets people up for a fall.

OH i dont know about that mate, sheer guts, will too win and utter ruthless determination can move mountains, can make ordinary people rise up and do extrodinary things. Learn from defeat, as the old saying goes, and we have learnt plenty now. Playing like maniacs won us flags in 58 90 and 10, total dedication and ruthlessness can work wonders. We are on the rebound, after three close losses, time to stop the rot with guts and sheer bloody mindfulnes..

[Brenny]

Well Collingwood on Twitter said Williams was out on Bereavement leave. Not going to argue with that.

But I for the life of me can't understand why we went with:

Cloke
White
Moore - Loved him down back!
Witts
Grundy

I'd have thought that Kennedy for Marley would have worked and then maybe Witts off for DeGoey.

Either way, this loss shitted me to tears. Slow start killed us big time!

[jackcass]

5 talls in wet conditions.

Grundy 203
White 196
Witts 209
Brown 195
Moore 199
Cloke 196
Frost 195

Schulz 193
Ryder 196
Lobbe 200
Westhoff 199
Trengove 197
Homsch 192
O'Shea 197
Clurey 193


They actually had +1 talls so that wasn't why we lost.

They may have had more talls, but our talls just weren't functioning (apart from frost, brown) Some tall guys can play in these conditions and some just aren't as up to it.....

That's a completely different discussion but it's a justifiable decision to include Grundy and to suggest it was bad coaching is wrong.

[Jezza]

Some people here seriously need to get a grip and this starts from the game on thread. For those saying the game was over in the first quarter in that thread should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves and for those who repeatedly said it was over throughout the night should be ashamed of themselves. I'm not usually one to pick up on these things and be irritated by them but tonight was unbelievable and staggering and these are the same people who love us one minute and talk up our chances but as soon as things fall apart they flip-flop at a rate I've never seen before.

Overall, I'm bitterly disappointed by this loss and it hurts far more than the losses we experienced against Fremantle and Hawthorn but what were people seriously expecting to happen. Did people really believe we were premiership contenders to start off with because if you did you're insane considering how young this side is to start off with. We've demonstrated remarkable improvement overall this year but tonight was no doubt a letdown and we lost it in several areas.

I think the changes (or lack of changes) was costly and Buckley will have to admit his error of going in with one extra tall at the expense of Marley going out which was of course beyond his control due to family reasons. Our players didn't adapt to the wet conditions at all tonight and they only started showing something towards the end when the rain eased off; and lastly our forward line was dysfunctional and non-existent. Frankly, we were flat all night and probably didn't deserve the victory in the sense that Port led for most of the match.

Tonight is a disappointing night but people need to settle down because we were never premiership contenders to start off with and secondly making the finals this year is a big pass mark for mine considering where we were this time last year.

The VFL on Saturday will be important for us and I'm sure we will see some changes especially after Broomhead's injury and Adams' likely suspension. Guys like Greenwood, Kennedy and Scharenberg all have a chance to make an impression and force their way into the side. Naturally I expect Marley to return who's absence tonight was huge as Wingard ran riot but didn't convert all his opportunities in front of goal.

The whole club should refocus, regroup and re-evaluate where they're at but it's not the time to panic. We have a chance to make our mark in the next two weeks against the Eagles and Bulldogs. Both are big challenges but ones we're capable of producing good results especially as these recent games have shown despite heartbreaking losses. I'm not going to call them 'honourable losses' but any loss is bad no matter the circumstance but we can take heart that we're not far off the pack despite three straight losses.

[Neil Appleby]

Reading through this thread is more frustrating than watching the game. It used to be just during the Game On threads that the Einsteins displayed their ignorance; now they come to post-game discussions to display their spectacularly stupid ramblings.

Blame Jesse White, blame a 19 yo second gamer for not being experienced enough. Blame Bucks for not being able to scratch another three points out of a young team. Criticise Grundy for having the guts to front up so soon after a hospital stay.

Here's a tip: just stay off your computers after a loss.

[jackcass]

Bit Hard beating Port and the Scumps.

Making Finals all of a Sudden is hard.

Bucks has lot to Answer for his utter Stupidity for Picking a Tall instead of a Small in Wet Conditions

Moore was a big mistake I agree

[piedys]

I'm a Bucks fan, but he coached badly tonight, including at the selection table.

Yep, alarm bells went off once I heard "no changes", then Williams out.

they knew about this change for some time. it was as good a time as any to see again how the grundy/witts combo would work. they competed well. we lost it in other areas.

Oh we lost this at selection table for a multitude of reasons.
I'd just be repeating what every other poster has already pointed out.

[Piesnchess]

Some people here seriously need to get a grip and this starts from the game on thread. For those saying the game was over in the first quarter in that thread should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves and for those who repeatedly said it was over throughout the night should be ashamed of themselves. I'm not usually one to pick up on these things and be irritated by them but tonight was unbelievable and staggering and these are the same people who love us one minute and talk up our chances but as soon as things fall apart they flip-flop at a rate I've never seen before.

Overall, I'm bitterly disappointed by this loss and it hurts far more than the losses we experienced against Fremantle and Hawthorn but what were people seriously expecting to happen. Did people really believe we were premiership contenders to start off with because if you did you're insane considering how young this side is to start off with. We've demonstrated remarkable improvement overall this year but tonight was no doubt a letdown and we lost it in several areas.

I think the changes (or lack of changes) was costly and Buckley will have to admit his error of going in with one extra tall at the expense of Marley going out which was of course beyond his control due to family reasons. Our players didn't adapt to the wet conditions at all tonight and they only started showing something towards the end when the rain eased off; and lastly our forward line was dysfunctional and non-existent. Frankly, we were flat all night and probably didn't deserve the victory in the sense that Port led for most of the match.

Tonight is a disappointing night but people need to settle down because we were never premiership contenders to start off with and secondly making the finals this year is a big pass mark for mine considering where we were this time last year.

The VFL on Saturday will be important for us and I'm sure we will see some changes especially after Broomhead's injury and Adams' likely suspension. Guys like Greenwood, Kennedy and Scharenberg all have a chance to make an impression and force their way into the side. Naturally I expect Marley to return who's absence tonight was huge as Wingard ran riot but didn't convert all his opportunities in front of goal.

The whole club should refocus, regroup and re-evaluate where they're at but it's not the time to panic. We have a chance to make our mark in the next two weeks against the Eagles and Bulldogs. Both are big challenges but ones we're capable of producing good results especially as these recent games have shown despite heartbreaking losses. I'm not going to call them 'honourable losses' but any losses is bad no matter the circumstance but we can take heart that we're not far off the pack despite three straight losses.

Yes, very well said Jezza, for a young bloke you make a lot of common sense, us ol Pies fans can be grumpy ol buggers eh. Seriously though, your spot on, only an imbeciile would have us hoisting the flag this season, it aint gonna happen, we are too young and raw, a very young developing team, that is taking babysteps. Its a long process, developing a team, the hard yards, the highs and lows, like the last three weeks, its a learning curve too, a process. We are miles better than last season, no doubt, but by gollly, tonights loss really did hurt, we really must do somethign about our forward line, or lack thereof, for the future, get that right ,and we will be contenders. It takes time and patience, and im afraid that patience is in short supply on Nicks, with Pies fans, and elsewhere.

[jackcass]

Anyone know where our extra man was? I'd imagine at the stoppages since we couldn't win clearances at even strength.

I thought I saw him at the bar out on the tennis courts.

[jackcass]

Last 3 games losses by 7/10/3. Disappointing but character building. The side is coming together well. And yep, 2016 we'll give it a shake.

To all you death riders, go and support another team ya muppets.

Ya muppets don't need character building.
Ya muppets just want a win!
Ya bulldust needs more fertilizing for Ya fantasy garden.

Thanks, but it wasn't my post.

[piedys]

Reading through this thread is more frustrating than watching the game. It used to be just during the Game On threads that the Einsteins displayed their ignorance; now they come to post-game discussions to display their spectacularly stupid ramblings.

Blame Jesse White, blame a 19 yo second gamer for not being experienced enough. Blame Bucks for not being able to scratch another three points out of a young team. Criticise Grundy for having the guts to front up so soon after a hospital stay.

Here's a tip: just stay off your computers after a loss.

Neil, it's a very practical way for people to vent their disappointment.
The reality is there are many people to blame for this loss, and yes it does start with coach and his poor team selections.
Blame White? Nah not this week; he didn't line up for goal in the last quarter to cost us the game again.
Blame Moore? No, he should never have been selected this week, or last week either.
Blame Grundy? No, he had a crack for us, as did Wittsy. Very hard to ruck when you have no-talent shits like Ryder with their hands in your fukking back all night. And three lowlife arsehat umpires who sanction it.

Dyso