Some very good analysis.bally12 wrote:Every team knows we can't handle sling-shot footy. Teams congest our forward line and get us on the rebound. The opposition forward entries are fast, and into an open forward line, hence the high efficiency they achieve.
We've been beaten like this since the Hawthorn game. Aside from our bad skills, the coaching staff have to take blame for their inability to counter this tactic. It's not good enough Bucks, and piss off if you are going to say in the presser that the players didn't adhere to team rules. I love you Bucks but remember what stubborness and arrogance did to James Hird.
So what to do? Can we play the sling-shot footy style other teams do? Personally I don't believe we have the running power and kicking penetration and accuracy to pull it off. Do we need to accept this is the footy of the future, and recruit accordingly? Possibly.
Do we play man-on-man? Do we stack our own backline/midfield, and ensure an open forward line? Not sure.
What I do know is that I don't want to go to the footy and see the Pies hold the ball up around the boundary lines while the opposition set up defensively, and then just bomb it high to a congested forward line...then have some points rushed against us, and pretend that inaccuracy is to blame, and then say if we could only fix our kicking everything will be good. In the least, when we have the ball 60m out, and the whole of the opposition team is parked in our 50, we can try to create some overlap run using handball and kick at goals from distance. Popping the ball up high into the goal-square again and again? I think we've tried that one.
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Like I said last week, getting beaten is becoming ingrained. It's not dissimilar to chronic domestic violence. The next two weeks will finish this mob. Dismal 2016. Buckley sacked mid year. Even Ed will start to look shaky. Collingwood is Australia. Bookmark this post!
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B12, that sums it up really. And all we hear in the coaches box is chirping cricket noises.bally12 wrote:Every team knows we can't handle sling-shot footy. Teams congest our forward line and get us on the rebound. The opposition forward entries are fast, and into an open forward line, hence the high efficiency they achieve.
We've been beaten like this since the Hawthorn game. Aside from our bad skills, the coaching staff have to take blame for their inability to counter this tactic. It's not good enough Bucks, and piss off if you are going to say in the presser that the players didn't adhere to team rules. I love you Bucks but remember what stubbornness and arrogance did to James Hird.
So what to do? Can we play the sling-shot footy style other teams do? Personally I don't believe we have the running power and kicking penetration and accuracy to pull it off. Do we need to accept this is the footy of the future, and recruit accordingly? Possibly.
Do we play man-on-man? Do we stack our own backline/midfield, and ensure an open forward line? Not sure.
What I do know is that I don't want to go to the footy and see the Pies hold the ball up around the boundary lines while the opposition set up defensively, and then just bomb it high to a congested forward line...then have some points rushed against us, and pretend that inaccuracy is to blame, and then say if we could only fix our kicking everything will be good. In the least, when we have the ball 60m out, and the whole of the opposition team is parked in our 50, we can try to create some overlap run using handball and kick at goals from distance. Popping the ball up high into the goal-square again and again? I think we've tried that one.
And if Essendon roll us with the sling-shot game plan in rnd.23, then the end for the coach will be closer than you'd think.
Warren, no point in arguing with someone who most likely this time in 2016, will have to change his log-in to: BucksIsSackedCoachWarrenerraW wrote:Yeah I will because he bloody well deserves it. It begins and ends with the coach. Collingwood's greatest player or not he's fair game and if he's not performing then he should be called out for it, the whole bloody team should. But if you're satisfied with mediocrity then I guess you'd be feeling pretty content right now wouldn't you...BucksIsFutureCoach wrote:The only people who deserve to be publicly shamed are the umpires who officiated the game today. But if it makes you happy by slandering the greatest player who played for our club and is busting his guts to make us a better team, then go for it.WarrenerraW wrote:A big collective boo and f*** you to he Collingwood football club today for your pathetic inept and heartless performance. Made to look like a bunch of plodders and list cloggers, incapable of giving 100% for the club and Its fans. Buckley needs to be publicly shamed as do he players. Can't remember the last time we were this bad. In fact we seem to be getting worse by the week. Same culprits same mistakes and same useless game plan. Come on bucks spin us something. Young developing team my arse. More like useless and clueless. Hang your heads in shame pies.
Voss was a great player, Brownlow medallist. Couldn't get the results...
Hird was a great player, Brownlow medallist. Couldn't get the results...
Buckley was a great player, Brownlow medallist. Couldn't get the results...
At this rate, the 2016 season result will follow the pattern.
Mark Thompson, speak up now, or forever hold your peace!
Yup. What bunch of muppets. I felt sick in the guts on hearing the one change to last weeks team at selection.inxs88 wrote: ...Whilst Scharenberg, Karnezis, Cox, Kennedy etc... dominate in the magoos!
Pathetic match committee
Knowing full well Fasolo would continue his shitful efforts against the teams in the eight. I hope this is the last time we see him in the seniors - period.
He now has ZERO currency, and I can't see any other team touching him with a pole come trade time.
Give credit where it is due; he has transformed himself from the most feared power forward in the AFL, to a useless steaming turd pile.Defender wrote:Cloke has regressed at an alarming rate, he offers nothing off the ball and he's lost his marking strength, he isn't a smart forward, not sure what we're going to do with him TBH, he deserves to be dropped.
If he's still injured - DON'T FUKKING PLAY HIM!! Or anybody else carrying injuries for that matter.
Reid equally as useless. Shadows of their 2010/2011 selves.
And to all those poor supporters who turn up to the game each week, and part with your hard-earned cash to watch farces like this... well I actually don't know what to say to you.
I'm just about lost for words...
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DTM do you think Bucks should resign like Hird? Or should the Board sack him now? If they did sack him, who do you think we should get as Coach? I mean seriously our list is pretty stuffed too.Dave The Man wrote:Weak as Piss. Simple as that. Beaten everwhere, Skills and Descion Making is Disgusting and Goal Kicking is a Joke.
Buckleys Job under Threat
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Oh Hiss you really are trying hard tonite!Hiss wrote:DTM do you think Bucks should resign like Hird? Or should the Board sack him now? If they did sack him, who do you think we should get as Coach? I mean seriously our list is pretty stuffed too.Dave The Man wrote:Weak as Piss. Simple as that. Beaten everwhere, Skills and Descion Making is Disgusting and Goal Kicking is a Joke.
Buckleys Job under Threat
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I'll probably attend next week's match against Geelong despite the anger I'm experiencing at the moment but I don't blame those who don't wish to attend.piedys wrote:And to all those poor supporters who turn up to the game each week, and part with your hard-earned cash to watch farces like this... well I actually don't know what to say to you.
I'm just about lost for words...
The club is playing like the season is already over!
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Que? Are you from Barcelona? I demand that 1970 be drug tested. Either that or he's sleep deprived.1970 wrote:Like I said last week, getting beaten is becoming ingrained. It's not dissimilar to chronic domestic violence. The next two weeks will finish this mob. Dismal 2016. Buckley sacked mid year. Even Ed will start to look shaky. Collingwood is Australia. Bookmark this post!
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