Post match: Pies lose to Dons. All comments please.
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- Piesnchess
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Today was the day that we could've levelled the wins tally from last year.
We failed miserably and for the 4th year in a row have gone backwards in games won compared to the previous season.
This stat alone makes me question the direction we are going in.
Yes, there have been many positives but what it is showing is yet again, the negatives are outweighing the positives more and more.
The spin doctors will be in full swing, but the reality is that even with natural improvement from the younger players, we are quite a way off the pace.
We have too many deficiencies to be a top 8 side and some of them don't look like being rectified any time soon (i.e disposal efficiency, quality small forwards).
There are other teams in the same boat in a similar rebuilding phase as us, but who are producing more consistent football.
Our current crop of players don't look like developing into a team that will beat the likes of the Bulldogs, Crows or west coast in the next few years. I can't see any of those dropping down any time soon.
Unless one if the youngsters does a Dane swan circa 2006 and becomes an A grader, we will be left with a list full of B graders at best.
2015 has been a failure and definitely not in the direction that we should be going in.
After the 2004-5 rebuild we made finals in 2006+. I don't have the some gut feeling of optimism now as I did in 2006.
Maybe next year will be a massive improvement, but if I was a betting man, I wouldn't be putting money on us surpassing many of the teams already above us.
We failed miserably and for the 4th year in a row have gone backwards in games won compared to the previous season.
This stat alone makes me question the direction we are going in.
Yes, there have been many positives but what it is showing is yet again, the negatives are outweighing the positives more and more.
The spin doctors will be in full swing, but the reality is that even with natural improvement from the younger players, we are quite a way off the pace.
We have too many deficiencies to be a top 8 side and some of them don't look like being rectified any time soon (i.e disposal efficiency, quality small forwards).
There are other teams in the same boat in a similar rebuilding phase as us, but who are producing more consistent football.
Our current crop of players don't look like developing into a team that will beat the likes of the Bulldogs, Crows or west coast in the next few years. I can't see any of those dropping down any time soon.
Unless one if the youngsters does a Dane swan circa 2006 and becomes an A grader, we will be left with a list full of B graders at best.
2015 has been a failure and definitely not in the direction that we should be going in.
After the 2004-5 rebuild we made finals in 2006+. I don't have the some gut feeling of optimism now as I did in 2006.
Maybe next year will be a massive improvement, but if I was a betting man, I wouldn't be putting money on us surpassing many of the teams already above us.
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- Dave The Man
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We basically chucked away a game we should have won through sloppy kicking and hand balling and lack of desire for the contest. We have excuses today. Swan and Cloke didn't play and Pendlebury, Grundy and Elliot look injured to me. But there are no excuses for not being able to pass to a teammate, notwithstanding the pressure some players were under by their harder tackling Essendon opponents. The younger players will learn, but they better learn fast, or they will end up having short AFL careers. Our tackling has dropped off from the first half of the season when we were 8 and 3. Our tackles are no longer sticking as Essendon players were constantly breaking free. Players were not concentrating for the whole game. I thought only Adams and Langdon played 120 minutes of the football. The rest were playing little cameos or drifting in or out of the game. Lots of work to do over the off season. Firstly drill after drill after drill needed to improve kicking hand balling. Secondly we need a rugby person to work on players tackling skills. Thirdly we need to get our team structures worked out so players know what their individual roles and KPI's are.
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You've summed up how I feel about this match! Well said TBF!thebaldfacts wrote:Don't know how to feel. The game did not mean anything other than pick 7 or 8.
Not greatly disappointed. Typical final round. We could hardly be bothered tackling and pressuring in the first half.
The real killer was the misses when we had chances to go beyond 2 goals. Kennedy, Fasolo, Pendles all missed gettable shots. How many out on the full did we kick from set shots? Probably would of won if they were at least points.
We had 10 players 21 or under, so we had lots of kids again. Guess we are playing for the future.
Am sure Bucks has us on the right path, just not sure if Bucks will be the one to see us through. 2016 is finals or bust.
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I still filthy on the lack of effort. If they were going to not take it seriously, tank, or what ever, could have warned us. I would have put in the same effort and stayed home.
I'm still pissed off. Not feeling optimistic, and seeing pics of our players drunk, dressed like **** and enjoying themselves won't help. Cancel mad Monday, and the end of season trip. Too many don't damn deserve it.
Send them off to actually work for a living. Bagging groceries or collecting rubbish might make them appreciate how damn lucky they are.
And a couple could use a lesson on what the word team means. They could take a leaf out of FAZ s book. Has really turned the corner. One of only a handful that can hold their heads up after yesterday.
Doing better? On the right track? WTF! I don't see it, I just don't. You don't lose to Melbourne, the dopers like that. And guts would have won a couple of those "honourable losses". Be prepared to hurt a little, your paid enough. Gees the draw we had, this is not a good finish. They damn well better make pick seven count. Because it cost us something so valuable. It's called PRIDE.
I'm still pissed off. Not feeling optimistic, and seeing pics of our players drunk, dressed like **** and enjoying themselves won't help. Cancel mad Monday, and the end of season trip. Too many don't damn deserve it.
Send them off to actually work for a living. Bagging groceries or collecting rubbish might make them appreciate how damn lucky they are.
And a couple could use a lesson on what the word team means. They could take a leaf out of FAZ s book. Has really turned the corner. One of only a handful that can hold their heads up after yesterday.
Doing better? On the right track? WTF! I don't see it, I just don't. You don't lose to Melbourne, the dopers like that. And guts would have won a couple of those "honourable losses". Be prepared to hurt a little, your paid enough. Gees the draw we had, this is not a good finish. They damn well better make pick seven count. Because it cost us something so valuable. It's called PRIDE.
You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either!
- Dawesy31
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I went to the game yesterday with my partner who is a Bombers fan, with the attitude that the game meant nothing and so wasn't disappointed with the result... HOWEVER! What disappointed, was the DISGRACEFUL act of some of our so-called "supporters" that threw their flags and banners on to the field after the match.
No wonder other team supporters mock us constantly. These morons are supposed to be representing our great club, supporting it through the good times AND the bad, yet this handful of cretins has embarrassed our club, the team has not. Have a good hard look at yourselves!
No wonder other team supporters mock us constantly. These morons are supposed to be representing our great club, supporting it through the good times AND the bad, yet this handful of cretins has embarrassed our club, the team has not. Have a good hard look at yourselves!
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would these be the banners and flags used by the cheer squad and thrown onto the field so they can be collected and packed up for storage? or was this an actual cause for outrage?Dawesy31 wrote:I went to the game yesterday with my partner who is a Bombers fan, with the attitude that the game meant nothing and so wasn't disappointed with the result... HOWEVER! What disappointed, was the DISGRACEFUL act of some of our so-called "supporters" that threw their flags and banners on to the field after the match.
No wonder other team supporters mock us constantly. These morons are supposed to be representing our great club, supporting it through the good times AND the bad, yet this handful of cretins has embarrassed our club, the team has not. Have a good hard look at yourselves!
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