#12 Matt Scharenberg

Bob Sugar · Post by **Bob Sugar** » Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:16 pm

burnsy17 wrote:That will be pick 12 or 13, depending on where they finish... We've done well if thats the case.

I think it's fair all round, Aish is worth the same, our pick 7 is to much for Aish though, maybe we give them pick 7 and they give us their second rounder.

Bob Sugar · Post by **Bob Sugar** » Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:26 pm

Remember Burnsy Shazza would have likely gone top 2 in the draft if it wasn't for first his injury and secondly the operation and rehab time to fix it, and it's fixed now, sure he did his ACL as well but he's came back from that in very quick time, shit, now that I think about it the crows first rounder might be unders.

Neil Appleby · Post by **Neil Appleby** » Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:44 pm

Well I've wavered on this one for months now. Surely a solid citizen would appreciate the time and work Collingwood has put into his recovery? Surely he'd sign as quickly as he could given his recent history?

So, all indications are he's probably leaving. Most players holding out on signing contracts do eventually leave don't they?

But then there are Buckley's consistent comments saying he's confident he'll sign once the details are settled. Still, coaches (Leon Cameron Monday) are sometimes more positive in their public comments than they would be thinking privately.

I won't be surprised either way, but I'm still leaning to his leaving.

Bob Sugar · Post by **Bob Sugar** » Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:50 pm

Neil Appleby wrote:Well I've wavered on this one for months now. Surely a solid citizen would appreciate the time and work Collingwood has put into his recovery? Surely he'd sign as quickly as he could given his recent history?

So, all indications are he's probably leaving. Most players holding out on signing contracts do eventually leave don't they?

But then there are Buckley's consistent comments saying he's confident he'll sign once the details are settled. Still, coaches (Leon Cameron Monday) are sometimes more positive in their public comments than they would be thinking privately.

I won't be surprised either way, but I'm still leaning to his leaving.

I'd be very surprised if he stayed, what's he waiting for now? I agree with Swoop when he said we can't risk playing him in the VFL finals now, we need to protect his worth, if he does another knee we'll be flat out getting the crows second rounder.

AN_Inkling · Post by **AN_Inkling** » Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:56 pm

It takes time to work out contracts. We don't know who will be on our list at the end of the year so putting more than a lowball offer on the table will be difficult. Could be it's just being worked out. Certainly a chance he's going but it's no certainty till the call is made.

Bob Sugar · Post by **Bob Sugar** » Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:07 pm

AN_Inkling wrote:It takes time to work out contracts. We don't know who will be on our list at the end of the year so putting more than a lowball offer on the table will be difficult. Could be it's just being worked out. Certainly a chance he's going but it's no certainty till the call is made.

Nothing's ever certain until it happens, but mate, everything is pointing to him leaving, just doesn't make sense to hold out this long.

Why would he hold out for a better deal knowing treloar has chosen us 'and' we've announced interest in Aish, does he want a peice of a smaller pie? Use your head.

Bob Sugar · Post by **Bob Sugar** » Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:14 pm

At least you know recruits want to play for your club, draftees are forced too.

On the March · Post by **On the March** » Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:42 pm

I still don't get why Shaza gets all the attention but not a word on Freeman

Bob Sugar · Post by **Bob Sugar** » Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:53 pm

On the March wrote:I still don't get why Shaza gets all the attention but not a word on Freeman

Dudes had a 2 year hammy, I don't think he's exactly fighting off offers with a stick, my gut feel is the club knows more than they're letting on about his future as an AFL player.

HAL · Post by **HAL** » Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:57 pm

Cuthbert Collingwood · Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:31 am

Magic 8 ball says:

(shake shake shake)

outlook not so good

E · Post by E » Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:41 am

Defender wrote:
watt price tully wrote:
Big T wrote:If he leaves, it's a total failure from Hine and co. If Freeman doesn't make it, it's a bloody disaster.
Hey, welcome back Big T.

I disagree about losing the 'berg as it depends on what we get back in return should he leave. I can see your point though in terms of having 2 picks in the top 10 with respect to Freeman.
The Whorks wasted pick 7 not to long ago, didn't seem to slow them up much, and as you said we'll get a decent pick for Shazza, I'm hoping around 11-12, that will give us plenty of currency to land treloar and Aish (if we want him)

Xavier Ellis? imagine how good the Hawks would be if instead of Xavier Ellis, they took S Pendlebury?

E · Post by E » Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:34 am

By the way, the puff piece from De Goey that talks about how happy he is that Treloar is joining him in the midfield makes mention of both Nathan Freeman and Scharenberg, and De Goey makes mention that he is looking forward to them coming on next season.

There was no fudging at all from De Goay in this regard.

Not sure he would say that if there was massive controversy.

I personally cant see how Scharenberg would leave and Aish would join us. I would have thought the Aish move was so that they could all play together.,

John Wren · Post by **John Wren** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:07 am

E wrote:I personally cant see how Scharenberg would leave and Aish would join us. I would have thought the Aish move was so that they could all play together.

yep, it does not make sense to me that aish would join only to see schazza leave. i see that aish may be a chance of staying with the lions.

HAL · Post by **HAL** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:11 am

What makes it impossible?

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#12 Matt Scharenberg