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Dangles wrote: As always I will reserve judgment until the completion of round eight.
Not sure if facetious or not, but this is a good approach. Seasons can start poorly for many reasons, and we don't yet know where teams are relative to each other. It's definitely too early to decide on sacking a coach. We will get better, it's just a matter of how much and whether it's enough for Bucks to keep his job.
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I have stayed away from this forum for a couple of years, However, after defending Bucks for the last 3 years...... ENOUGH !!! We have , and are going backwards under the Buckley Reign.
Malthouse had to go when he did. BUT sadly Bucks Cannot Coach.

Over to you Eddie.
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AN_Inkling wrote:
Dangles wrote: As always I will reserve judgment until the completion of round eight.
Not sure if facetious or not, but this is a good approach. Seasons can start poorly for many reasons, and we don't yet know where teams are relative to each other. It's definitely too early to decide on sacking a coach. We will get better, it's just a matter of how much and whether it's enough for Bucks to keep his job.
I was serious. Eight rounds is a big enough sample size. Hopefully today's performance will put a rocket up us and we can get the ledger back to 2 - 2 next week.

I heard Carey on the radio saying that having Cloke in the ruck because he's ineffectual in the forward line is a real worry. He said the first step is the ruck. The next is left right out.
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mgh3536 wrote:One shining light
How crap are Richmond
And we only beat them by 1 point in the last 4 seconds. Not sure that's such a shining light now.
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Firstly, we were destroyed by the Saints' run. That part is not debatable. We lack running power in order to spread and play the modern game. We also lack enough strength to lay a tackle on a moving player.
Our training methods are all wrong. It's so obvious, it makes me want to cry. Add to this 3 years of a non-stop injury toll. It's not down to luck. Instead, the club maintains faith in our fitness department head, Davoren, an ex Bulldogs, and Saints fitness coach, with a background in triathlon. The triathlon is a marathon-type of event. Modern footy is all about speed-endurance...the ability to do repeated 300m sprints. It's like Usain Bolt hiring a marathon coach. The Hawks wouldn't go near this guy. They know the importance of getting the Fitness program right.
It's worth noting that 2 of our speedsters in Freemam and Seedsman have been traded away.

I believe we have players with some real issues. For some, these are fixable, for others it's time to make a call on unfortunately.

Gone:
Blair - not AFL standard. No skills, no running power. Too small to compete in the air.
McCaffer - too slow. Can't spread.
Goldsack - fumbles too much. Doesn't provide run.
Brown - not able to run. Can't hit a target over 20m.
Frost - same as Brown.
Toovey - great servant of our club. Unfortunately kicking is his downfall, and too late to change.

Fixable but need rapid improvement:
Marley Williams - atrocious kicking style. Can only kick it long with any reliability. The coaches need to make a serious attempt to fix his action. He's been at our club long enough now. I blame the coaches.
Jarrod Witts - too soft. Can't mark.
Grundy - just like Witts.
Jesse White - soft and lacks decision-making in traffic. Not sure what training can fix this. Perhaps give him stints in the middle.
Cloke - the coaches need to understand a left-footer kicks differently to a right-footer. Get someone that understands biomechanics ffs. He needs to come in on an arc like Buddy.
Maynard - overrated kick. Doesn't guide the ball onto his boot naturally. Poor decision maker.
Oxley - soft. Takes a long time to make a decision. He's a good mark, but a bit slow. He is the ox after all.
Adams - kicking technique needs to be smoothed out. Too deliberate when he kicks. Right hand comes off the ball too early. We need him to become our Sam Mitchell.
Gault - terrible kicking action. A 195cm power forward should cover 50m easily. Needs to attack every aerial contest like he owns it. I only have a glimmer of hope he can turn it around...doesn't have much time.

The one positive I saw from today is that Goodyear looks like a good mover. Again, kicking needs to be polished up.

To those saying that we lack hunger or not playing for the coach, I say rubbish. Every team can bring 100% effort. Even weekend teams in the C-grade amateurs bring 100% effort. It should never nor can we rely on it to be a differentiator, but a given. We simply don't have either the fitness, strength, skills, or confidence to execute.

Eddie, get off the Foxsports channel and bloody fix this club.
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boofa wrote:I have stayed away from this forum for a couple of years, However, after defending Bucks for the last 3 years...... ENOUGH !!! We have , and are going backwards under the Buckley Reign.
Malthouse had to go when he did. BUT sadly Bucks Cannot Coach.

Over to you Eddie.
Been away a while myself boofa. I can now see light at the end of the tunnel.

So who do we make interim coach. Harvey, Burns or Hart?
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Just watched Buckley press conference ....

He know his time is up!!!
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mgh3536 wrote:Just watched Buckley press conference ....

He know his time is up!!!
I haven't seen or heard it but what did he say exactly?
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Here's that press conference.

http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/video/2 ... -collapsed

I pretty much agree with everything he said.
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mgh3536 wrote:Just watched Buckley press conference ....

He know his time is up!!!
I get it. Saints without two key players from half time another down at 3 qtr time and they know his time is up.
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bally 12 that was a good analysis.
Question why do we have so many duds and so many who can't kick?
we don't eat our own at collingwood we just allow them to foul our nest.
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It doesn't get much more deenergising when you realize your teams not up to it. I know it's Round 3 & generally I'm a cup half full person, but after what I saw today it's #strugglesville for 2016. #braceyourselves
i don't know how to put this but...

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stui magpie wrote:Here's that press conference.

http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/video/2 ... -collapsed

I pretty much agree with everything he said.
Thanks Stui :)

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thompsoc wrote:bally 12 that was a good analysis.
Question why do we have so many duds and so many who can't kick?
id bet if they were some where else they would improve.
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