Post match. Pies thrash Bombers. All comments please

[WarrenerraW]

Smith not up to it yet,

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23 disposals and 4 tackles (more than 12 other Pies) on debut.

Surely, you jest.

Yeah but how many of them were clangers, don? He didn't use it that well. Probably nervous as hell so we an cut him some slack.

[Collingwood Crackerjack]

I feel very relieved after the win. Happy as well, but more relieved. We simply could not have lost today, so well done to the team for pulling it together and having a big win - it's been long overdue.

Loved the first half. We ran hard, tackled well, used the ball quite effectively and played with a desire and intent that's been missing over the last 4 weeks.

Yes the opposition was essendope and we all know they're a thrown together mish mash of players, but they still play competitive football and showed that in the second half.

Our second half was appalling. Why are we so insistent on handballing at every given opportunity. Message to the players: the football is not a hooker and not everyone needs to touch it. Look ahead find an option and kick it. Just kick the bloody thing. We piss fart around way too much and turn the ball over all the time. It was the only sour note on what was an impressive enough win.

When we're good, we look capable of matching it with the best but there's still a lot of holes to fill in our game.

Forward line looked solid and in fine form. Faz stood out for me. Sidey sneaked a few which he needs to do more of. Howe starting to find some form. Moore showed us a glimpse or two of how good he'll be in years to come.

Shame about Varcoe. I hope it's only a minor grade injury and not one that will keep him out for too long. We'll definitely miss his run and carry.

Defense was pretty good all round but I'd prefer if we kept a close check on opponents rather than letting them run into space easily. A better side would've exposed us here. Reid is fantastic and a general down back. Brown is competitive and tries hard but is probably a step or two off the pace of the modern game. Tooves did alright and kicked the ball well.

Aish... not sure what we were getting with him but I'm not seeing the benefits considering what we paid for him. He elects to handball all the time even when he has a clear shot at goal. Don't know if it's fitness, lack of understanding of our style or what it is but he looks lost and unsure of himself.

Pendles needs to stay in the middle where he belongs. Adams is a terrier and in everything bar a shit sandwich. Crisp was ok. Greenwood was good too. Cox is a monster. I hope he makes the grade in the afl it would be such a great story and achievement if he did.

Maynard needs a kick up the arse. That attempt to handball his way out from the kick in which resulted in a goal was stupid and dumb.

Next week will be a huge test for us. I'm not confident but I hope we can step up to the plate and compete for four quarters and come home with a win.

Today I saw evidence of what we can be - if we try, but I also saw the other side of the coin. The indecisive, uncertain, sloppy and incompetent side. That's the side we need to iron out.

Invite me to one of your house parties one time, they sound fun!

[Collingwood Crackerjack]

Question; can we fit both Brown and Frost in the same team?

I've never been a huge Brown fan, always thought he was overrated, but I think we should look to move him and Cloke on, with a view to recruiting Dusty!

[MatthewBoydFanClub]

Showed a heap of passion today, exemplified by Greenwood for flying the flag. That's what we need to display every week, win or lose. FWIW I thought Essendon played much better after half time and deserved to slightly outscore us. Cox and Smith made good debuts. We are so much better when Pendlebury starts in the centre square. Still feel very strongly that Cloke is in our best 22 and should play against West Coast next week. The challenge will be to keep up with the WCE midfield on a ground we are not familiar with, but I don't see why we can't match it up with them and maybe even snag a win. Even if we don't win next week our season is back on track. Play like we did today, we will beat Carlton and Brisbane. Retreat back into our shells and play with the lack of passion that we displayed against Melbourne and St Kilda, we won't beat anyone.

[swoop42]

Smith was playing his first AFL game in front of 85,000 on Anzac Day.

He and Cox handled themselves really well.

[stui magpie]

Great win, came out hard and killed it in the first half. Yeah we dropped off in the second half but they also lifted. I'll take a 69 point win any day after the rubbish we served up so far this season.

If that doesn't make it clear to the doubters, I don't know what will.

It's not the coach or game plan that's been the problem, it's the players ability to execute.

Today they came out and performed. That's the new benchmark. The Sack Buckley brigade should all go skydiving without parachutes.

lol I knew it... one win against half a washed up AFL side and it's premierships, dynasties and lollipops all over again - choo chooo all aboard!!

I see sex and travel in your immediate future.

[MagpieBat]

Smith not up to it yet,

??

23 disposals and 4 tackles (more than 12 other Pies) on debut.

Surely, you jest.

Yeah but how many of them were clangers, don? He didn't use it that well. Probably nervous as hell so we an cut him some slack.

Disposal Effectiveness of 78.3%. Only 4 of his 23 disposals were turnovers.

Not too shabby...

[Collingwood Crackerjack]

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23 disposals and 4 tackles (more than 12 other Pies) on debut.

Surely, you jest.

Yeah but how many of them were clangers, don? He didn't use it that well. Probably nervous as hell so we an cut him some slack.

Disposal Effectiveness of 78.3%. Only 4 of his 23 disposals were turnovers.

Not too shabby...

MB, you can prove anything using statistics.....93% of all people know that.

I'm surprised though, only 4 direct turnovers, but mssed the hit-up a few more times than that.

Look, I'm not writing him off at all, he will be a good player, just my opinion that he is not ready yet, certainly not for a trip to Perth in any case

[neil]

Smith not up to it yet,

??

23 disposals and 4 tackles (more than 12 other Pies) on debut.

Surely, you jest.

Not really, yes he got plenty, which is a good sign, but he looked decidedly rushed against a second rate team and made several unforced errors; I think he would do well to go back to the 2nds and get some more runs on the board before we try him against more able opposition

FFS he is a kid playing his first game of senior football H Shaw got 23 on debut he seems to go alright

[watt price tully]

.....Smith not up to it yet, ...

Very harsh IMO CC. This kid can play - just needs more exposure, experience & confidence in my view. Mind you if he is still in next week it will be tough 2nd week initiation.

[neil]

Something to remember about Aish is that he's only 4 months older than De Goey. He's still finding his feet at a new club and as a slight player without great pace it may take him a bit of time. .

Thanks for this salient point! I didn't realize that he is as young as that. Probably hasn't had as much experience as De Goey either? I will now reserve my judgement on him.

I remember a young skinny kid without great pace called Gavin Brown he ended up ok

[Collingwood Crackerjack]

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23 disposals and 4 tackles (more than 12 other Pies) on debut.

Surely, you jest.

Not really, yes he got plenty, which is a good sign, but he looked decidedly rushed against a second rate team and made several unforced errors; I think he would do well to go back to the 2nds and get some more runs on the board before we try him against more able opposition

FFS he is a kid playing his first game of senior football H Shaw got 23 on debut he seems to go alright

Good point; I would have liked to see more finger-pointing and screaming at team mates from the lad, needs to lift his vitriol game.

He played alright, just don't think he is quite ready yet. And Heaters 23 would have been against better opposition than that methinks

[thompsoc]

likes - cox, does everything Witts does, and is more dangerous
- adams, did some real good things, I was a doubter if he would make an A grader

concerns
- Crisp, very fumbly, slow - I was not a doubter, not sure now
- Aish, easy to see why he was not getting a game at Brisbane. No obvious strengths in any area.

Agree with that.
Thought it was Adams best game for us so far.

[HAL]

.....Smith not up to it yet, ...

Very harsh IMO CC. This kid can play - just needs more exposure, experience & confidence in my view. Mind you if he is still in next week it will be tough 2nd week initiation.

Are you next week it will be tough 2nd week initiation?

[stui magpie]

we just won by 69 points, played our best game for the season.

Do we really need to be picky? Is this the time to be critical about non perfection? W is wrong with just enjoying the win?



GO PIES