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Magpietothemax wrote:The comparison with Carlton is very apt. Their list is not as good as ours, yet their performances as a team are far better. How can this be explained except by coaching? Moreover, it is clear that Carlton's team has been instilled with confidence...confidence in their roles, confidence in each other. I think that Buckley is failing abjectly in this area.
Totally agree
But I'll also add that there is no leadership
Our captain is a champion player, but I don't rate him as a captain at all.
And we really need a back line general, the likes of Shaw and Maxy, someone marshalling the troops. Reid is pretty good at it, but he's working so hard at the moment he doesn't have the time or energy I think. And that's only the game plan, this stupid idiotic zoning that does not work. What the hell happened to the man up of the last two weeks? That's what works. Today was crap. How many no one home romp in to the square and kick form a foot away goals did they get? Pathetic
You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either!
Thank you to MagpieToTheMax, a like-minded buddy and ANNODAM II for your encouragement.
I have been trying to figure out how to reply on this bulletin board, so far attempts are without success.
For now, Mudlark needs to hold his/her mud. I have been following the pies probably before (s)he was born.....just because I am living in NSW now....he assumed I follow NRL.....not interested. Love the Pies....as does more and more NSW folks get converted to AFL...
PIES FOREVER!!
MANAGING FOR UNITY, TEAM FIRST
RECRUITING FOR SKILLS, PASSION
COACHING FOR SMART PLAY, EFFORT
Boycotting future games until something is done ! Ed you should resign ! Fans are fed up and not going anymore! We are rapidly becoming the new Melbourne. Boring club , low crowds, no supporter influence on the Club direction, fans taken for granted, crap dull social club! These non Victoria Park years will go down in our Xlub history as the worst . Losing generations .
I love this club and I hold anyone in contempt who does not think it is worth fighting for.
Twiggy wrote:Thank you to MagpieToTheMax, a like-minded buddy and ANNODAM II for your encouragement.
I have been trying to figure out how to reply on this bulletin board, so far attempts are without success.
For now, Mudlark needs to hold his/her mud. I have been following the pies probably before (s)he was born.....just because I am living in NSW now....he assumed I follow NRL.....not interested. Love the Pies....as does more and more NSW folks get converted to AFL...
OK, but no need to slag the coach after being a Nicks poster for five minutes, this has been happening far too much on here lately,by newbies, who don't seem to realise we have the most massive injury list in the League, along with the Lions, who also are really struggling to find form.
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Gonzalo wrote:At the end of their playing and coaching careers I will show more respect to Travis Cloke than Nathan Buckley.
1 was able to be a key player in a premiership and the other has been the captain and coach of two of our worst eras.
I think you're rewriting history there. Our 'worst era' with Buckley as captain included two grand final appearances, playing finals in 06 and 07 and a finishing very close to finals in other years. Our only shocking years were 99 and 2000, immediately after he took over. If anything, Buckleys captaincy coincided with the long term rebuild of the entire club.
Gonzalo wrote:At the end of their playing and coaching careers I will show more respect to Travis Cloke than Nathan Buckley.
1 was able to be a key player in a premiership and the other has been the captain and coach of two of our worst eras.
I think you're rewriting history there. Our 'worst era' with Buckley as captain included two grand final appearances, playing finals in 06 and 07 and a finishing very close to finals in other years. Our only shocking years were 99 and 2000, immediately after he took over. If anything, Buckleys captaincy coincided with the long term rebuild of the entire club.
7 years out of finals and a Wooden Spoon was our worst ever onfield era. Buckley was part of that.
I really find this scapegoating of Cloke by Buckley and the club as very poor. The guy has carried us for years, he is a premiership player and he has been competing against 2 defenders for years because Nathan can't setup a forward line.
He has a premiership medal and I'll always remember him more fondly than Buckley.
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RudeBoy wrote:We really need a hard, strong and big bodied midfielder to smash open packs and deliver the ball well. De Goey should grow into that role, so I'd like him to be used on the ball for most of the remainder of this season, instead of used as a HFF.
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Dave The Man wrote:
Treloar had his Worst game for the Club.
28 disposals @ 78.6 efficiency (best, other than Smith's 81 and Sidey's 80).
His other 10 games must've been scintillating.
I disagree. This was just one of 3 or 4 games where he's been part of the problem, rather tha part of the solution. Lots of disposals but too few kicks and not enough damage done.
Spot On. Got Lot of the Ball but Was not very Damaging with his Disposal
