2016 Census
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As a matter of interest, what is the logic of the Census seeking income data in ranges of a few hundred dollars per week each but stopping at $3,000 per week? Is it just a deliberate strategy to hide the number of people who earn genuinely large incomes, so that we can pretend that people who make $3,000 per week are rich?
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$3000 a week is about $156,000 a year before tax. That's a pretty decent income, and about two to five times what most people earn (six times, in my case). Notwithstanding the existence of people who earn 100 times that, I'd say the bell curve is starting to tail off once you get to that point.
As for the boycott, I won't be joining in. I totally understand and respect the concerns of privacy advocates, but census data is too valuable to be thrown away over what seems to me to be a fairly minor concern (the linking of names with data). It's mostly the sort of information the government already has, and I trust that the ABS doesn't have any nefarious motives here.
As for the boycott, I won't be joining in. I totally understand and respect the concerns of privacy advocates, but census data is too valuable to be thrown away over what seems to me to be a fairly minor concern (the linking of names with data). It's mostly the sort of information the government already has, and I trust that the ABS doesn't have any nefarious motives here.
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That's right. Pin money - not what well-off people get paid.David wrote:$3000 a week is about $156,000 a year before tax. That's a pretty decent income, and about two to five times what most people earn (six times, in my case). Notwithstanding the existence of people who earn 100 times that, I'd say the bell curve is starting to tail off once you get to that point.
As for the boycott, I won't be joining in. I totally understand and respect the concerns of privacy advocates, but census data is too valuable to be thrown away over what seems to me to be a fairly minor concern (the linking of names with data). It's mostly the sort of information the government already has, and I trust that the ABS doesn't have any nefarious motives here.
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The average tradie earns over $100k, bloke I used to know who was a builder was earning $110k 10 years ago.Pies4shaw wrote:That's right. Pin money - not what well-off people get paid.David wrote:$3000 a week is about $156,000 a year before tax. That's a pretty decent income, and about two to five times what most people earn (six times, in my case). Notwithstanding the existence of people who earn 100 times that, I'd say the bell curve is starting to tail off once you get to that point.
As for the boycott, I won't be joining in. I totally understand and respect the concerns of privacy advocates, but census data is too valuable to be thrown away over what seems to me to be a fairly minor concern (the linking of names with data). It's mostly the sort of information the government already has, and I trust that the ABS doesn't have any nefarious motives here.
I'm on less than the $156k but I still paid more in tax than it seems David earns.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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People having a shriek about the census website crashing and about fines prove that people are fkn idiots.
Fines don't start until September sometime ****, you can do the census anytime as long as the info is as of tonight.
fkn shrieking imbeciles.
(Woods of Ypres excepted)
Fines don't start until September sometime ****, you can do the census anytime as long as the info is as of tonight.
fkn shrieking imbeciles.
(Woods of Ypres excepted)
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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As they tell us at work, if the customer is confused then the problem isn't that they're an idiot, the problem is that we haven't explained it clearly enough. You can't hold everyone's hand, true, but this whole thing has been a PR disaster on the part of the ABS and their insufficient communication has been a big part of that. They've got five years to think of a better way to handle this; let's hope they get it right next time.stui magpie wrote:People having a shriek about the census website crashing and about fines prove that people are fkn idiots.
Fines don't start until September sometime ****, you can do the census anytime as long as the info is as of tonight.
fkn shrieking imbeciles.
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Hehehehe!stui magpie wrote:They know when you are sleepingthink positive wrote:Do they cross reference? Do they know if u lie
They know when you're awake
They know if you've been good or bad
so be good for goodness sake,
Apparently if you haven't submitted one, they are door knocking with hard copies. And a census to fill out! At the end of August so don't stress!
You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either!