Robert Walls - article in Herald Sun 16/9/16. Says Cloke's AFL days are over in his opinion. In his view, Cloke has struggled for 3 years.watt price tully wrote:Robert Walls - I thought he was in France 2 years ago.mooretreloar wrote:Robert Walls said he was done 2 years ago.watt price tully wrote: Who are so called "experts" who say he is "done".
David King says the same.
Jason Dunstall said at the end of 2015 we should have traded him at the end of 2015.
Leigh Matthews said after the GF that he couldn't see a spot for Cloke at Footscray, unless he could play the forward/ruck role.
Nathan Buckley said in early 2016 that Cloke's form slump was oot a new thing, it had been apparent for 18 months.
David King - pls find the source
Dunstall trade views were right but that doesn't say he is done just what his value was at the time
Leigh's views that you've quoted doesn't mean he's done
That Bucks couldn't get the best out of him is another matter
So really you have possibly 2 names in that list, not plenty of experts
The freeing up of his salary however combined with a form slump & as Cloke Senior was quoted as saying recently playing for a coach that believes in you is another matter.
David King - multiple times on AFL 360, don't know episodes or exact times, as I didn't think at the time that watt price tully would want the exact details.
Dismiss Leigh's views if you want, but just quietly I would back him over you.
Your view that Buckley can't get the best out of him, no fact to this statement.
My view is he is done, don't care if you don't agree with me or not. He used to be a great contested mark, he isn't anymore. Used to apply great forward defensive pressure, doesn't anymore. Happy to wear his bad kicking based on him bringing the other two, but if he can't contested mark, doesn't provide defensive pressure and can't kick, he is done.