Terror attacks by Islamist groups

[Skids]

surely Merkel is finished now.

Let 'em all in.... FFS wake up!

[Morrigu]

surely Merkel is finished now.

If this turns out to be true then it certainly won't help her cause or that of legitimate refugees trying to make a fresh start that's for sure.

"Sources cited by the German news agency DPA said that the driver of the truck was an asylum seeker from Afghanistan or Pakistan who had arrived in Germany in February."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38373867

What a bloody awful mess she has made of Europe they have no idea who is even in the joint so how the hell can the intelligence services possibly be effective

Vale to all those that have lost their lives and hoping those that are injured pull through

[stui magpie]

Article from a Journo who was standing there when the Russian Ambassador to Turkey was killed.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/photog ... 0318bd352d

Wow.

Putin's move.

[Morrigu]

^ That would have just been surreal

This didn't get much publicity and apart from the obvious sadness at the loss of life this is not good... " The shootings were the latest in a series of attacks that have challenged the pro-Western kingdom's claim to be an oasis of calm in a region threatened by Islamic extremists."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-19/f ... ck/8130926


And the shooting at the Islamic centre in Zurich - Zurich ?? seriously Zurich

I'm so glad we traveled through Europe when all we had to worry about was dodgy gypsies trying to pick pocket you!

[Dave The Man]

Shows how much Trouble Religion Causes

[Mugwump]

Shows how much Trouble Religion Causes

Do you see many incidents of this nature being done around the world by Buddhists, Christians or Hindus, Dave ? It seems to be one religion causing vast loss of life across the world, in this era of gistory. Though not as much death as atheist regimes caused in Germany, in China, or in Russia.

[Mugwump]

Truck rams crowd in Berlin



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -dead.html

Russian Ambassador to Turkey assassinated.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/19/world ... urkey.html

Indeed. How much evidence does Europe need that inviting large numbers of Islamic people into the continent will necessarily cause mass, indiscriminate murder across ordinary life in every country involved ? Madrid, berlin, paris, london, new york, brussels, nice, and right across the ME.... What has to happen for us to name the problem, and stop calling it Islamophobia ??

[stui magpie]

^

Ironic that the progressives pushing the cause would be the first executed under Sharia law

[Dave The Man]

Shows how much Trouble Religion Causes

Do you see many incidents of this nature being done around the world by Buddhists, Christians or Hindus, Dave ? It seems to be one religion causing vast loss of life across the world, in this era of gistory. Though not as much death as atheist regimes caused in Germany, in China, or in Russia.

So make Islam/Muslim a Illegal Religion?

[Mugwump]

Shows how much Trouble Religion Causes

Do you see many incidents of this nature being done around the world by Buddhists, Christians or Hindus, Dave ? It seems to be one religion causing vast loss of life across the world, in this era of gistory. Though not as much death as atheist regimes caused in Germany, in China, or in Russia.

So make Islam/Muslim a Illegal Religion?

No, that would never work and it is against the traditions of religious tolerance inside our society.

The policy we need is a reasonably simple one : be tolerant, kind and welcoming of the Muslim citizens in our societies now, as that cannot be reversed, but deal with any sympathy for jihadism very severely. At the same time, future immigration from Islamic countries should be very heavily vetted and restricted.

[Dave The Man]

Truck rams crowd in Berlin



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -dead.html

Russian Ambassador to Turkey assassinated.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/19/world ... urkey.html

Indeed. How much evidence does Europe need that inviting large numbers of Islamic people into the continent will necessarily cause mass, indiscriminate murder across ordinary life in every country involved ? Madrid, berlin, paris, london, new york, brussels, nice, and right across the ME.... What has to happen for us to name the problem, and stop calling it Islamophobia ??

Shows how Scared the West is of ISIS.

ISIS don't follow any laws and should be the same for the West that should just blow the Shit out of the Middle East

[stui magpie]

Do you see many incidents of this nature being done around the world by Buddhists, Christians or Hindus, Dave ? It seems to be one religion causing vast loss of life across the world, in this era of gistory. Though not as much death as atheist regimes caused in Germany, in China, or in Russia.

So make Islam/Muslim a Illegal Religion?

No, that would never work and it is against the traditions of religious tolerance inside our society.

The policy we need is a reasonably simple one : be tolerant, kind and welcoming of the Muslim citizens in our societies now, as that cannot be reversed, but deal with any sympathy for jihadism very severely. At the same time, future immigration from Islamic countries should be very heavily vetted and restricted.

Agree with all of that, but the tolerance level IMHO needs to be dialed back a little. Where religious custom or Sharia law conflicts with the law of the land, the law of the land should unequivocally win.

We want migrants to assimilate and integrate into society, not to just transfer their culture to a different country and expect the majority to pander to them.

[Mugwump]

^

Ironic that the progressives pushing the cause would be the first executed under Sharia law

Anything rather than living in peace under the exploitative imperialist Western liberal secular-Christian capitalist system, comrade....

[Dave The Man]

Do you see many incidents of this nature being done around the world by Buddhists, Christians or Hindus, Dave ? It seems to be one religion causing vast loss of life across the world, in this era of gistory. Though not as much death as atheist regimes caused in Germany, in China, or in Russia.

So make Islam/Muslim a Illegal Religion?

No, that would never work and it is against the traditions of religious tolerance inside our society.

The policy we need is a reasonably simple one : be tolerant, kind and welcoming of the Muslim citizens in our societies now, as that cannot be reversed, but deal with any sympathy for jihadism very severely. At the same time, future immigration from Islamic countries should be very heavily vetted and restricted.

Good Points. Especially be lot Stricter on Islamic Immigrants

[stui magpie]

^

Ironic that the progressives pushing the cause would be the first executed under Sharia law

Anything rather than living in peace under the exploitative imperialist Western liberal secular-Christian capitalist system, comrade....