The murderous disaster of Robodebt

[stui magpie]

What they are doing is saying with minimum investigation that there is a debt and its up to the person to prove there is not. I can't imagine any other organisation being able to do this, with the possible exception of the tax office. If this method becomes acceptable the you can bet the tax office is going to do it if it's not already. It does not gel with the concept of procedural fairness and it will affect those least able to defend themselves.
Yes, there are some people rorting the system but it does not mean that some mad experiment in reducing the deficit aimed at the most vulnerable should be pursued.
If you know someone you think is rorting the system or you hear them boasting about it, dob them in.

Funny thing that, they're using ATO earnings data.

[partypie]

^ true, and if anyone other than me remembers the 80s, asset testing on pensions came in as a direct consequence of the bottom of the harbour tax tax avoidance schemes that were being used at the time. Not only were people avoiding tax, they were getting full pensions and fringe benefits.

[Dave The Man]

Great Video:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eoD0efoHzeA

[David]

Haha, that is a classic.

[Dave The Man]

Haha, that is a classic.

and Spot On

[Tannin]

Awesome link Dave! Love it!

[Dave The Man]

The Centerlink thing Shows how little they care about the Needy.

They Rather everyone on Centerlink have No Money and Live on the Streets and Die.

So they Assholds can have more money for themselves and there Rich Mates.

This makes me Ashamed to be Called Australian and make you want to move away from Australia

[HAL]

What does "this" refer to?

[stui magpie]

The Centerlink thing Shows how little they care about the Needy.

They Rather everyone on Centerlink have No Money and Live on the Streets and Die.

So they Assholds can have more money for themselves and there Rich Mates.

This makes me Ashamed to be Called Australian and make you want to move away from Australia

good luck with that Dave, lots of countries (USA for example) provide a lot less social security than we do.

The intent, in my opinion, isn't to force people onto the street to die but to encourage people to be more self sufficient and earn money and fund their own retirement (super)

Reliance on Centrelink is a trap. A poverty trap.

[Dave The Man]

The Centerlink thing Shows how little they care about the Needy.

They Rather everyone on Centerlink have No Money and Live on the Streets and Die.

So they Assholds can have more money for themselves and there Rich Mates.

This makes me Ashamed to be Called Australian and make you want to move away from Australia

good luck with that Dave, lots of countries (USA for example) provide a lot less social security than we do.

The intent, in my opinion, isn't to force people onto the street to die but to encourage people to be more self sufficient and earn money and fund their own retirement (super)

Reliance on Centrelink is a trap. A poverty trap.

What about people who are Generally on Disability that can't get a Job?

Other Countries do have worse but be others that are better

[stui magpie]

^

there's always better off, there's always worse off. Depends who/where you chose to compare with.

[Dave The Man]

^

there's always better off, there's always worse off. Depends who/where you chose to compare with.

Well I am on the Disability Pension

[stui magpie]

^

but you aren't unable to work, there's plenty of jobs you would be capable of doing. Getting one is a different discussion.

[HAL]

I really couldn't say for sure.

[Dave The Man]

^

but you aren't unable to work, there's plenty of jobs you would be capable of doing. Getting one is a different discussion.

How do you know That?

I would not got a Disability Pension IF I could then