Things that make you go.......WTF?

[stui magpie]

Where the **** is summer, I'm bloody freezing

Don't worry.

Stui is on his way with his sunshine filled bum.

Sorry, I've been spending so much time sitting on it lately, my leather chair has skin cancer.

[Mugwump]

To the extent that such folk want to vote against an improved social security system, a broader set of health-insurance protections and a strengthening of the rights of the dispossessed generally, they are going to find themselves progressively even more - wait for it - dispossessed.

To the extent that, individually, they are disadvantaged and dispossessed, they are certainly deserving of a better deal. However, to the extent that their perception is limited to bringing others back to their level, rather than demanding an improvement of their own collective lot, they are the enemy and their stupidity is to be pitied, derided, ridiculed and - yes - an object of humour.

No argument, but all of the above are matters of choice, not of ascribed identity. You just shifted the goalposts.

I quite agree that much of the American right is peddling hatred. So are people who put up public signs urging discrimination against other people on the basis of their skin colour and gender.

[Mugwump]

[HAL]

Something we cannot know.

[stui magpie]

To the extent that such folk want to vote against an improved social security system, a broader set of health-insurance protections and a strengthening of the rights of the dispossessed generally, they are going to find themselves progressively even more - wait for it - dispossessed.

To the extent that, individually, they are disadvantaged and dispossessed, they are certainly deserving of a better deal. However, to the extent that their perception is limited to bringing others back to their level, rather than demanding an improvement of their own collective lot, they are the enemy and their stupidity is to be pitied, derided, ridiculed and - yes - an object of humour.

No argument, but all of the above are matters of choice, not of ascribed identity. You just shifted the goalposts.

I quite agree that much of the American right is peddling hatred. So are people who put up public signs urging discrimination against other people on the basis of their skin colour and gender.

Question for those who study these things, how much has the Cold War indoctrinated American thinking?

Universal health care and a social security safety net are things most of us consider fundamental, yet in the USA the populace resist. Talk to the average person (strippers, cab drivers, bartenders) they support their current system in the main.

During the cold war following WWII, US citizens were indoctrinated with the fear of communism.

The hypothesis is, this has had a carry over effect through the generations.

Thoughts?

[swoop42]

Where the **** is summer, I'm bloody freezing

Don't worry.

Stui is on his way with his sunshine filled bum.

Sorry, I've been spending so much time sitting on it lately, my leather chair has skin cancer.

Hopefully your gonads weren't sunburnt.

[Mugwump]

[Mountains Magpie]

[David]

^ If by a shake-up you mean, for instance, millions of us get indiscriminately slaughtered in another world war, I think I might pass on that.

[stui magpie]

^ If by a shake-up you mean, for instance, millions of us get indiscriminately slaughtered in another world war, I think I might pass on that.

^

Prepared to be conscripted?

[stui magpie]

[Mountains Magpie]

^ If by a shake-up you mean, for instance, millions of us get indiscriminately slaughtered in another world war, I think I might pass on that.

So a famine or pandemic, 1929 x 10,000 economic collapse or celestial/earth catastrophe are on the table? hehehe

Don't worry about Stui, WWIII won't last long enough for conscription

[David]

^ If by a shake-up you mean, for instance, millions of us get indiscriminately slaughtered in another world war, I think I might pass on that.

^

Prepared to be conscripted?

Prepared to go to jail instead if it's a cause I don't support...

[stui magpie]

^ If by a shake-up you mean, for instance, millions of us get indiscriminately slaughtered in another world war, I think I might pass on that.

^

Prepared to be conscripted?

Prepared to go to jail instead if it's a cause I don't support...

I think you'd live longer in the Army........

[Mugwump]

You forgot bartenders.

I just assumed you were too pissed by then