Vale / in Memorium

Post by **stui magpie** » Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:08 pm

^

First man up, one of the last to fall

watt price tully · Post by **watt price tully** » Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:01 pm

Wow, Sad. Wonderful musician.

Post by **Jezza** » Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:38 pm

Great musician!

Vale Chuck Berry.

Post by **Pies4shaw** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:30 am

"Here come ol' flat top ...."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jKrHzps0XM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5madtiLf7DI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jKrHzps0XM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPFeAe0gQx0

Here's Mr Berry's lovely rendition of T-Bone Walker's "Mean Old World", played by Chuck rather in the style of Otis Rush's magnificent 1965 recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaE7C-hf6Wg

Finally, three iconic guitars (the Strat, the Tele and the Gibson ES-335) all on stage at once, attached to three iconic guitarists: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzKd0aiaK4c

Mugwump · Post by **Mugwump** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:31 am

Very important musician, whose songs still resonate. Also convicted paedophile, tax evader, armed robber and videotaper of unsuspecting women in toilets. Other than those minor peccadilloes, he was a great guy. Suitably Publicly honored by Bill Clinton, which seems appropriate. Great songs - just a pity they were not made by a better man.

luvdids · Post by **luvdids** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:48 am

Mugwump wrote:Very important musician, whose songs still resonate. Also convicted paedophile, tax evader, armed robber and videotaper of unsuspecting women in toilets. Other than those minor peccadilloes, he was a great guy. Suitably Publicly honored by Bill Clinton, which seems appropriate. Great songs - just a pity they were not made by a better man.

Source?? Pretty big statement with nothing to back it up.
If you're referring to this: http://www.history.com/this-day-in-hist ... s-missouri
you might want to change your claim of 'convicted paedophile' to 'convicted of Mann act offence'

Can't find any info about him being an 'armed robber' as stated.

So many great songs & a great legacy, RIP

Mugwump · Post by **Mugwump** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:52 am

luvdids wrote:
Mugwump wrote:Very important musician, whose songs still resonate. Also convicted paedophile, tax evader, armed robber and videotaper of unsuspecting women in toilets. Other than those minor peccadilloes, he was a great guy. Suitably Publicly honored by Bill Clinton, which seems appropriate. Great songs - just a pity they were not made by a better man.
Source?? Pretty big statement with nothing to back it up.
If you're referring to this: http://www.history.com/this-day-in-hist ... s-missouri
you might want to change your claim of 'convicted paedophile' to 'convicted of Mann act offence'

Can't find any info about him being an 'armed robber' as stated.

So many great songs & a great legacy, RIP

Read the Wikipedia entry, which is well-referenced, and then google the details. The Mann Act required "an immoral purpose", the girl claimed that they had intercourse, she was 14 years old, and the case was tried twice with the same result (I can well believe that the first trial might have been highly prejudiced). You can make it probable paedophile, if that makes you feel any better, but the Mann Act conviction was on those facts, which substantiate a conviction for paedophilia. The other convictions are recorded for the offence directly as written.

luvdids · Post by **luvdids** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:15 am

Soooo, not a convicted paedophile then?

Mugwump · Post by **Mugwump** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:21 am

Did you read the facts ? What is it about the facts of the conviction that suggests it was not paedophilia to you ? You said I had "nothing to back it up". You might admit now that this was not the case. The armed robbery conviction was in about 1957, I think.

Anyway, it is also a matter of record that videotapes of unsuspecting women on the toilet in his club were found in his house after an employee said that he wired a camera in the Ladies. But he's a rock'n'roll legend and in the modern world that's what matters. What a strange, strange world we have made.

Post by **think positive** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:39 pm

Post by **Pies4shaw** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:32 pm

A famous black man in trouble wth the law in the US in the 1950s and 60s? Well, you could have knocked me down with a feather.

Post by **think positive** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:16 pm

Pies4shaw wrote:A famous black man in trouble wth the law in the US in the 1950s and 60s? Well, you could have knocked me down with a feather.

And then there is definitely that!

Post by **David** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:24 pm

Post by **stui magpie** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:10 pm

^

he'd hardly be the only musician to root a 14 yr old

Post by **David** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:21 pm

Doesn't make it ok, needless to say! But yeah, David Bowie is just one other who comes to mind who had sex with an underage girl.

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