Post Match. Tigers def. Pies - All comments please

[thompsoc]

I didn't bother to watch, but aside from getting nutted at the clearances, was there anything in Bucks's press conference that offered an explanation for this evenings abomination ?

Basically said we run out of fresh legs, last week took it out of us.
He said our effort was ok. ...that was true.
Pity about the game plan.

[What'sinaname]

I didn't bother to watch, but aside from getting nutted at the clearances, was there anything in Bucks's press conference that offered an explanation for this evenings abomination ?

Basically said we run out of fresh legs, last week took it out of us.
He said our effort was ok. ...that was true.
Pity about the game plan.

That's the problem. We expend so much effort to score goals, we can't play a full 120 minutes.

Our game plan is taxing and doesn't help our players whatsoever.

[MarkOSuv]

The press conference was a rinse and repeat of the last 3 years.

[Collingwood Crackerjack]

I didn't bother to watch, but aside from getting nutted at the clearances, was there anything in Bucks's press conference that offered an explanation for this evenings abomination ?

Basically said we run out of fresh legs, last week took it out of us.
He said our effort was ok. ...that was true.
Pity about the game plan.

That's the problem. We expend so much effort to score goals, we can't play a full 120 minutes.

Our game plan is taxing and doesn't help our players whatsoever.

But the effort was OK? Well thank Christ for that, I was worried for a second there...

[MatthewBoydFanClub]

The way they smashed us at centre clearances was disgraceful, considering Grundy was dominating the hitouts. As good as Pendles, Treloar, Adams and Sidey are, they collectively failed at their most important task. I honestly don't understand why we are so poor in this crucial part of the game.

As for our forward line, it's almost non existent. And don't get me started on our kicking inaccuracy.

I've been a Buckley supporter through and through but unless he can get this team to make an almighty turn around in form and start winning games, then it's inevitable he will lose his job. Who we'd get as his replacement is anybody's guess, and whether they'd do any better I wouldn't know. Right now I'm feeling gutted.

Having missed the entire second half of the match because of a power failure here on the Sunshine Coast due to the storms, I naturally have no idea what caused us to lose the game.

Still I have a few insights to offer. Broomhead has hardly had any match play in the last month. I would not have expected him to do very much in the second half. Moore I thought was very good in the first half and an improvement over his first match. My guess is that he didn't get much support in the second half. We need to play another tall in the forward line - dropping Cox made absolutely no sense at all to me. Starting Schade ahead of Dunn is another one of those risky selection moves that I just don't think you can afford to make this early in the season.

Losing the first two games of the season however is no great surprise to me. I watched the team train in November and they had about 10 players in rehab who couldn't train and of the new draftees, two were in rehab while one of the other ones was overweight. Plus we cut deeply into the list retiring a number of experienced players. So I'm just wondering why the great optimism amongst the supporters coming into the start of the season?

I'll just repeat what I said last year that the club is paying the price for poor recruitment between the years 2012-2014. We picked up one really great player in Grundy, while maybe one or two others from that period could still make it. We managed to get it right I think in the last couple of years with the players we recruited and I think Gubby Allan has accelerated the rejuvenation process of the list at the end of last year.

Unfortunately the recruitment process when you do get it right takes about three years to filter through to when you start to get payback. So I think our best years ahead are 2018 onwards. FWIW I did predict a 1-3, or 2-4 start to this season with improvement to occur from about the middle of the season. I don't think that will get us into the final 8 but I still feel we can win between 10 and 11 games.

Please don't give up on the team yet. I truly believe we are a team on the improve, not a team on the slide as a few people think around here. Once we get a few injured players back and we shuffle the team around a bit to put our best team on the park, wins will follow. We need to be patient. Calling for Buckley's head will achieve nothing.

[Medieval]

We will be 0-5 after Anzac Day.

I'm still baffled that you can have 18 blokes in one half of the ground when your whole gameplan is to burst forward on a turnover and score. Dusty sat 20m out for a lot of the game tonight. Murphy and Stringer ran around the forward line unmanned last week. How can a coach not see that this is a deficiency in our gameplan? Before the season began, every journo was saying that this year the stay at home forward was going to break the game right open and bring the battle back to the traditional positions the ground. Did we not pay attention to this? Did we ignore it thinking that our gameplan would withstand this game changing tactic?

[inxs88]

ALEX FASOLO PLAYED EXACTLY LIKE HIS PERSONALITY:

* ARROGANT
* DELUSIONAL
* MILLIONAIRE LIKE
* SELFISH
* GENERATION "ME"

HIS CAREER IS LITTERED WITH EXAMPLES OF NOT BEING ABLE TO CAN'T KICK A GOAL IN CLUTCH MOMENTS AND HIS INABILITY TO WIN CONTESTS IS APPALLING.

7TH YEAR ON LIST AND JUST WAIT FOR HIS CLICHE 6 WEEK INJURY TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT MONTH!

[RudeBoy]

The way they smashed us at centre clearances was disgraceful, considering Grundy was dominating the hitouts. As good as Pendles, Treloar, Adams and Sidey are, they collectively failed at their most important task. I honestly don't understand why we are so poor in this crucial part of the game.

As for our forward line, it's almost non existent. And don't get me started on our kicking inaccuracy.

I've been a Buckley supporter through and through but unless he can get this team to make an almighty turn around in form and start winning games, then it's inevitable he will lose his job. Who we'd get as his replacement is anybody's guess, and whether they'd do any better I wouldn't know. Right now I'm feeling gutted.

Having missed the entire second half of the match because of a power failure here on the Sunshine Coast due to the storms, I naturally have no idea what caused us to lose the game.

Still I have a few insights to offer. Broomhead has hardly had any match play in the last month. I would not have expected him to do very much in the second half. Moore I thought was very good in the first half and an improvement over his first match. My guess is that he didn't get much support in the second half. We need to play another tall in the forward line - dropping Cox made absolutely no sense at all to me. Starting Schade ahead of Dunn is another one of those risky selection moves that I just don't think you can afford to make this early in the season.

Losing the first two games of the season however is no great surprise to me. I watched the team train in November and they had about 10 players in rehab who couldn't train and of the new draftees, two were in rehab while one of the other ones was overweight. Plus we cut deeply into the list retiring a number of experienced players. So I'm just wondering why the great optimism amongst the supporters coming into the start of the season?

I'll just repeat what I said last year that the club is paying the price for poor recruitment between the years 2012-2014. We picked up one really great player in Grundy, while maybe one or two others from that period could still make it. We managed to get it right I think in the last couple of years with the players we recruited and I think Gubby Allan has accelerated the rejuvenation process of the list at the end of last year.

Unfortunately the recruitment process when you do get it right takes about three years to filter through to when you start to get payback. So I think our best years ahead are 2018 onwards. FWIW I did predict a 1-3, or 2-4 start to this season with improvement to occur from about the middle of the season. I don't think that will get us into the final 8 but I still feel we can win between 10 and 11 games.

Please don't give up on the team yet. I truly believe we are a team on the improve, not a team on the slide as a few people think around here. Once we get a few injured players back and we shuffle the team around a bit to put our best team on the park, wins will follow. We need to be patient. Calling for Buckley's head will achieve nothing.

I admire your optimism and resilience BIFC. I wish I felt the same. My main worry is that we continually get smashed at centre clearances, yet our midfield is supposedly our main strength. The only player on our list who could help us in this area is De Goey, because of his physicality and attacking play, but sadly our club decided to ban him for a further 3 weeks after he recovers from his broken hand. By then the season will probably be over. Believe me BIFC, I so, so want Bucks to succeed as our coach, and I'm still hoping he'll be able to turn things around, but right now I'm really struggling to believe it will happen. To be honest, this is the worst I've felt about us for several years. I picked us to beat the Bulldogs and Tigers, but I can't see us even getting close to the Swans. Poor old Elliott will be expected to win the game for us after not playing for around 18 months. Heaven help us.

[Collingwood Crackerjack]

ALEX FASOLO PLAYED EXACTLY LIKE HIS PERSONALITY:

* ARROGANT
* DELUSIONAL
* MILLIONAIRE LIKE
* SELFISH
* GENERATION "ME"

HIS CAREER IS LITTERED WITH EXAMPLES OF NOT BEING ABLE TO CAN'T KICK A GOAL IN CLUTCH MOMENTS AND HIS INABILITY TO WIN CONTESTS IS APPALLING.

7TH YEAR ON LIST AND JUST WAIT FOR HIS CLICHE 6 WEEK INJURY TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT MONTH!

A FAIR POINT, WELL MADE!!!!!

[Cruisinwithdids]

What we saw tonight is a continuation of last year. The coaching is appalling, Buckley needs to go, but it seems he is protected by the president. The decline of this great club has been orchestrated by McGuire as a deliberate attempt at what was deemed 'culture change'. I preferred the winning culture of a daring team. The club has hit a low ebb and the supporters want answers, not the clique ridden garbage that Buckley trots out in every press conference. The recruiting of Chris Mayne, Jesse White, Levi Greenwood & James Aish is just bizarre miss-management, and wastes the talent of our gun players. With trips to the SCG, Etihad to play StKilda, then a resurgent Essendon with nothing to lose on Anzac Day, followed by Geelong, we could be 0-6. I'm not sure what happens then....

[Funkadelic]

Heard some journo asked Bucks if 'theres any pressure now you're 0-2' to which he replied 'mate its round 2, take a breath'.
Journo should have said 'I'll take a breath when you win a game' and dropped the mike.
Party's over Bucks.

[think positive]

A team with Pendlebury, Treloar, Adams, Grundy, Reid, Howe, Sidebottom, Moore, WHE, Fasolo...should not be this woeful.i just reeled off 10 names, half a team! Are we really as bad as our weakest links??? Including Bucks?

This, exactly this

Why?

And I answer. They are not a team. They don't gel like a team. Something is missing, fear of speaking up? Can't get anything past the yes men? No leadership at all, can't believe how many picked Pendles in the best player, yeah he played alright but where is the leadership? The clips on the ear, the pats on the bum? damn nothing. Sidey was shit. Adams is young but I expect more. Game plan? They either don't get it or don't believe in it, headless chooks have more coordination.

Who suggested making him skills coach?? We have no skills, only WHE , even Treloar fell over, please lord, make this end before he stuffs WHE.

Week as piss. Pathetic. Gutless. What the hell do they do at training? How can the whole team be so consitantly shitful kicking for goal?

How hard is it to get out there and kick a ball around for mega bucks? Too hard for some. Who was it sitting on their arse after they got caught, just sitting there with the ball still in the area? Make that bastardised walk to Sydney, soft as shit some of these players, can't remember seeing such total lack of team play.

[WarrenerraW]

I went to the game expecting a spirited performance by a team wanting to make amends for last week. Instead what I witnessed was probably the worst game of football ever! We are nothing short of a pathetic rabble devoid of skills and confidence. We're going nowhere fast and we have a coach who is clueless and has no answers on how to fix this mess, even after 5 years! I've never seen us turn the ball over as much as I did tonight. We are hellbent on handballing at all costs to players under pressure who are then forced into kicking to the opposition. There is no structure or game plan in place and the players don't seem to have the will or desire to want to win.

In the last quarter when WHE kicked truly to get us within a couple of goals, hardly anyone came to celebrate. Yet 9thmond kick one back and it's all celebrations. Something is seriously wrong at our club and everyone needs to be made accountable.

This mess is on you Ed. You wanted your boy Nathan at Collingwood and were willing to ensure that you did anything to make it happen, even if it meant destablizing the club and everyone in it. You didn't want Buckley going to Norf or anywhere else. Still, they all went along for the ride and bought into Nathan's plan. But now that ride has seemingly gone off course and we're heading towards the cliff.

I want to feel angry and upset but I feel empty. It's soul destroying watching our side churn out sh*t like we saw tonight. Our decision making, skills, judgement, structure and gameplan are all deplorable and in desperate need of an overall. I don't know who could save us from this train wreck but something has to, and must, change.

On paper, we should match it and take out most sides, yet on the park we fall in a heap and collapse. Something is systematically wrong at Collingwood. Nathan, you said you'd do the honourable thing and leave in the best interests of the club if you failed. Well that time is now! Walk now and we might be able to salvage something because no Wells, Elliott or Daicos will save us. It's time for a new coach with fresh ideas and understanding of the way the modern day game is played. Someone with perspective who can bring out the best in his players.

[Magpietothemax]

I am no football expert and I have never played the game. Yet I cannot help observing that we play with no overall team strategy. We seem incapable of ever grabbing a game by the horns and steering it because our team lacks an overall understanding of how to play as a team.
In the presser, Bucks said that we "ran out of legs". A bit surprising perhaps. Why did we "run out of legs" more so than Richmond, in round 2?
In my view, because our team strategy is mostly based on effort and that is all. Effort is great, but it can't be the only ingredient. Otherwise, when physical exhaustion starts to kick in, if all you have is effort, then you are screwed. We rely on effort to keep us well in the game, but because it is mainly effort, we tire before our opponents. This then appears as an "honorable defeat".
The skill levels tonight were devastatingly low. In his presser, Buckley hardly refers to this inconvenient truth. I am dismayed.

[Jamesy]

Grundy, hallelujah! Barking outstanding! If everyone played like him tonight, 20-25 goal win easily....maybe 30-35 goals. Best game for the Pies so far, rapt. OK...40-50 goals.

I just hope to God that this is just a complete one-off team bog job this year. Nothing worked. So many players second to the ball, disinterested, confused, not sure whether to watch Rambo 1 or Rambo 2 when they get home after the game.

The team was without spark.

Play like you want to FKN win FFS! FKN woeful!

Go the Pies!