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"Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange
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I guess it works both ways.

She is entitled to her opinion and they're entitled to call her a "disgrace" in response.

Calling for her to be sacked is a step to far though.
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Freedom of speech means freedom from prosecution (18C), not freedom from people getting angry at you, calling you a dickhead or calling for an employer to fire you or a boycott. This isn't a witch hunt of some nobody saying something stupid, this is a commentator using her platform to be offensive for political purposes.

**** her.
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Nup **** it she did it deliberately so she can cop it back, no sympathy and as for her job, well if her employer finds her attitude at odds with theirs, seeya later

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Her attitude is perfectly aligned with the ABC's, it's why they've supported her so far. In the absence of commercial incentive they can be as big a back of wankers as they like.
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Believing she should be sacked because you don't like her opinion is the complete opposite of what the Liberal party apparently stand for with 18c.

Sure you can call her out on her comments, that's what free speech is but calling for a sanction because of them is a complete and utter double standard.

That I think was Davids main point and I agree.

Personally I have no problem with speech even a hateful one as long as it's not advocating violence, harassment or intimidation of an individual person or minority.

For example calling someone a [snip] because you've gotten into a heated argument or simply using it within a throwaway line on a bulletin board is fine with me.

Calling for someone to be bashed or harassing them verbally without provocation as they walk along a street because they are one isn't.
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I agree with all the responses so far.

Freedom from persecution doesn't mean freedom from criticism.

"Activist" :roll:

Poor petal tried to make a point and misjudged the room. Guess her normal echo chamber on facebook isn't as dumb as she thought.
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David wrote:Another year, another TV presenter getting in trouble for saying something 'offensive' on Anzac Day.

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Australia, time to get the collective pole out of our arses and start actually practising what we preach on freedom of expression. You don't have to like Abdel-Magied or what she wrote, but last time I looked we can handle diversity of opinion. Can't we?
With due respect she's an idiot. Not for what she posted so much as her timing.

When she pressed the enter button what response did she think she would get? We don't need her stupidity & lack of savvy on the ABC. Sack her & employ Catherine Deveney instead.

The woman in question is far better off being employed as an Engineer ( her qualification) as her performance this year in the media (Q & A) did her no credit despite the obvious logic of her argument compared to the ignorance of Jackie Lambie regarding Sharia Law is & isn't.
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Wokko wrote:Freedom of speech means freedom from prosecution (18C), not freedom from people getting angry at you, calling you a dickhead or calling for an employer to fire you or a boycott. This isn't a witch hunt of some nobody saying something stupid, this is a commentator using her platform to be offensive for political purposes.

**** her.
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watt price tully wrote:
David wrote:Another year, another TV presenter getting in trouble for saying something 'offensive' on Anzac Day.

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Australia, time to get the collective pole out of our arses and start actually practising what we preach on freedom of expression. You don't have to like Abdel-Magied or what she wrote, but last time I looked we can handle diversity of opinion. Can't we?
With due respect she's an idiot. Not for what she posted so much as her timing.
Oh she is not an idiot WPT - she knew exactly what she was doing - she knows the significance of the words "Lest We Forget". She doesn't care - self important wannabe with her own agenda!!

"Ms Abdel-Magied has served as a member of the Australian Multicultural Council, Federal ANZAC Centenary Commemoration Youth Working Group and the 2014 Youth G20 Summit"

http://dfat.gov.au/people-to-people/fou ... agied.aspx
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Is there a trademark on the phrase "lest we forget"? Are we only permitted to intone it like rites at a Latin mass, and not think about what it actually means or how else it might be applied?
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You just don't get it do you.
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^ Actually, I suspect that a great many people lack the critical faculties to 'get' anything from this other than 'burn the heretic'. But please feel free to enlighten me.
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