Federal Budget

[Wokko]

Congratulations to Labor on getting their budget through the lower house.

Seriously, may as well merge the LibLabs at this point.

[Culprit]

What's missing in all the smokes and mirrors is the lifting of the debt ceiling. So much for the Fiscal Perfectionist. I think the LNP have done it that way so they can blame Labor.

[David]

Still proposing to drug-test welfare recipients. Who but the Libs would think of something like that?

[Skids]

Still proposing to drug-test welfare recipients. Who but the Libs would think of something like that?

What's wrong with that?

When i was doing the State housing maintenance, the number of dole bludgers sittung around doing ferk all but pulling bucket bongs and drinking premix cans was huge.
They're supposed to be looking for work! The billions if dollars they leech off the taxpayer isn't to buy pot.

[David]

Which ignores the fact that some of the most vulnerable long-term unemployed people are in fact drug addicts. Let's test them and cut their pension so they turn to crime to survive! Good thinking!

[HAL]

Still proposing to drug-test welfare recipients. Who but the Libs would think of something like that?

What's wrong with that?

When i was doing the State housing maintenance, the number of dole bludgers sittung around doing ferk all but pulling bucket bongs and drinking premix cans was huge.
They're supposed to be looking for work! The billions if dollars they leech off the taxpayer isn't to buy pot.

It would be nice if it was made up of only good memories.

[Mugwump]

Which ignores the fact that some of the most vulnerable long-term unemployed people are in fact drug addicts. Let's test them and cut their pension so they turn to crime to survive! Good thinking!

As thinking goes, it's not quite as good as paying them for their lifestyle choices because of their implicit threat of criminal behaviour. God forbid that they should be expected to take some responsibility for their lives and their obligations to society. It's not like we have anything better to spend the money on.

[stui magpie]

Which ignores the fact that some of the most vulnerable long-term unemployed people are in fact drug addicts. Let's test them and cut their pension so they turn to crime to survive! Good thinking!

Or maybe get them into rehab?

If they do turn to crime maybe a stint in forced rehab (aka gaol) would help.

I reckon the measure to divert people into rehab and put their money on cashless debit cards that have limited usage would be met with applause from some of the parents of these alleged addicts.

[Morrigu]

Still proposing to drug-test welfare recipients. Who but the Libs would think of something like that?

And no extra money for detox beds and services and longer term residential places post detox which are critical!

There is no point detoxing someone - we were only allowed 6 days ( I don't know whether this has changed) which with the exception of benzos could physiologically detox but not psychologically detox or assist someone to develop adequate coping strategies and then sending them back to the same environment ( frequently toxic) that they came from!!!

I ran a drug and alcohol residential detox unit years ago - we had to take " compulsory" or court mandated clients - never ever worked - they usually just fcked it up for those trying so hard!

That having been said there is a reasonable cohort of welfare recipients who are not addicts but who choose to use as lifestyle - no reason they couldn't work and no issue with stricter criteria for them to continue to receive tax payer funded payments!!

[HAL]

Do you run for exercise?

[Culprit]

Drug testing welfare recipients is a Facebook policy to appease the gullible. It's not cost effective and will do nothing regarding the issue of drug use. It's there to grab votes from the non thinkers. We spend the money to put them on a cash card. How many of the 5000 are drug users? Let's say 20% so you have found 100. Big damn deal.Has anyone actually on here purchase illicit drugs? You don't get a shit load of cash on the dole, it's not as if you can buy a fortnights supply. Drug users are more likely to seek an alternative means of income to buy their gear so putting them on a cash card achieves nothing. But hey they get some votes. Wake up.

[Pies4shaw]

But it helps us as a society to dehumanise the poor and blame them for their lot.

[HAL]

What does "it" refer to?

[stui magpie]

But it helps us as a society to dehumanise the rich and blame them for our lot.

Amended to provide a counter point.

[David]