It's not a civil war.
Rhiannon is a dickhead who has crippled the Greens vote in NSW for years. Kick her out and move on.
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Greens civil war
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Any party that wants to govern in Australia has to be able to attract votes from the centre. The balancing act is being mainstream enough without losing your soul.
Turnbull is steering the Libs toward centre and copping the backlash from the right wing.
Shorten has to balance the expectations of the union powerbase
Di natalie seems to be doing a good job, but this kind of thing is inevitable, the far left nuts will get disenfranchised.
Turnbull is steering the Libs toward centre and copping the backlash from the right wing.
Shorten has to balance the expectations of the union powerbase
Di natalie seems to be doing a good job, but this kind of thing is inevitable, the far left nuts will get disenfranchised.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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What we are missing here, of course, is a left-wing party.
Labor, once centre-left, was dragged by Hawke past the centre to the centre-right position it still occupies.
The Greens have never really fitted onto the left-right spectrum, and minus their NSW branch, still won't. You could probably call them "vaguely leftish" but no self-respecting left-winger would claim them as his own.
The "moderate" wing of the Liberal Party is squarely right-wing. The Liberal right is hard right.
PHON is, like the Greens, harder to classify. They are broadly far right, but with weird left and centre-left policies mixed in.
Xenofraud is straight moderate right. Katter is as hard to classify as PHON. Hinch is right. McGowan is moderate right.
On the left ..... crickets.
Rhiannon (or some better candidate - it shouldn't be too hard to find one - should stand as what she is: a genuine left-wing candidate. (And stop buggering up the Greens.)
Labor, once centre-left, was dragged by Hawke past the centre to the centre-right position it still occupies.
The Greens have never really fitted onto the left-right spectrum, and minus their NSW branch, still won't. You could probably call them "vaguely leftish" but no self-respecting left-winger would claim them as his own.
The "moderate" wing of the Liberal Party is squarely right-wing. The Liberal right is hard right.
PHON is, like the Greens, harder to classify. They are broadly far right, but with weird left and centre-left policies mixed in.
Xenofraud is straight moderate right. Katter is as hard to classify as PHON. Hinch is right. McGowan is moderate right.
On the left ..... crickets.
Rhiannon (or some better candidate - it shouldn't be too hard to find one - should stand as what she is: a genuine left-wing candidate. (And stop buggering up the Greens.)
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Are you in New Zealand? Unless things have changed, Insiders is on at 0900 (sorry) 9.am. AESFT (Australian Eastern Standard Freezing Time)SweatyPie wrote:She's the 'special guest' on Insiders on Sunday at 7am. Looks like it's popcorn for breakfast tomorrow.
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watt price tully wrote:Are you in New Zealand? Unless things have changed, Insiders is on at 0900 (sorry) 9.am. AESFT (Australian Eastern Standard Freezing Time)SweatyPie wrote:She's the 'special guest' on Insiders on Sunday at 7am. Looks like it's popcorn for breakfast tomorrow.
7am AWST on 24 ABC NEWS
I might have to make extra popcorn as Gerard Henderson, David Marr and Katharine Murphy will be slogging it out with our own Barrie Cassidy. Looks like Mr H will be in for a good old fashioned reaming.
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Unfortunately, it's brain-dead easy to start a party on the right.Tannin wrote:On the left ..... crickets.
Once you (a) propose shoveling money and public assets into the pockets of extreme wealth, and (b) incite violent wrath against whatever ragtag minority groups are laying around, the platform, funding, media coverage and core vote writes itself.
Meanwhile, anyone with a fraction of self-and-other awareness is left scratching for funds and ethical ideas that don't involve damaging social quality by selling out to robber barons, or employing mob violence.
Even worse, except for the very occasional freak, it takes a complete mental case to lead a party, and most certainly a nation. The fantasy that one is knowledgeable and balanced enough to take on such responsibility, and the web of self-and-other deception needed to sustain the destructive policies which get one to power, are alone enough to exclude the sane.
The existential crisis of our day is this: decent, intelligent folk know too much about themselves and others to sustain such delusions.
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For those who are bored, this page/group is a good laugh! 
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Compare that to a bad take on this by Bernard Keane
httpswww dotcrikeydot comdot au20170703greens-libs-wrestle-with-party-memberships-and-the-problem-of-electability
[quote]For the Liberal Party and the Greens their NSW branches proving to be problematic at the moment in different contexts but on much the same issue how should a parliamentary party represent the views of its membership rather than the will of the wider electorate are proving to be problematic at the moment in different contexts but on much the same.
httpswww dotcrikeydot comdot au20170703greens-libs-wrestle-with-party-memberships-and-the-problem-of-electability
[quote]For the Liberal Party and the Greens their NSW branches proving to be problematic at the moment in different contexts but on much the same issue how should a parliamentary party represent the views of its membership rather than the will of the wider electorate are proving to be problematic at the moment in different contexts but on much the same.
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Four Corners is covering the ongoing "civil war" within the Greens tonight.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-14/g ... ts/8800484
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-14/g ... ts/8800484
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