Pauline Hanson on autistic kids in school

[King Monkey]

There is definitely some merit in having a discussion.
Too many dismiss these sort of things because of the disdain they have for the person saying them.

My youngest is in grade 1 and has some learning and attention issues. He wouldn't have progressed as well as he has over the first 18 months of his school life if it weren't for the aides provided in the classroom to help him and a few others in his class, on top of the extraordinary efforts of his teachers who go well out of their way to assist him.
I can see the potential for other kids to not be given the attention they deserve under a less-well-run program in a different school with a different set-up.

Ultimately, I think it's best to make assessments on a case-by-case basis by liaising with teachers, parents, pediatricians,etc, rather than coming up with some sort of blanket policy.
There will be certain cases where everyone involved can benefit from a kid being pulled from "normal" class, including the kid. Where as there will be times when it's not necessary like my example above. Just as there will be times when pulling a kid would be wrong.

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[Mugwump]

^ There is probably violent agreement that (a) Hanson is not too smart ; and (b) case by case is the right framework, here. But I did pause at "senator Hanson wanted to politicize the issue..."

It's not really unreasonable for a politician to politicise a point about education practice and resourcing in a debate on schools funding.

She was typically blunt and clumsy in her thinking, but it was a reasonable point for a politician to make in parliament. I thought that what she she said was far more valid than the debate-shutting phony outrage howled by alternately lachrymose and bullying Labour politicians and the creepy Greens leader.

Imagine a world where people said, in parliament, "Senator, you raise a point that could be valid, but I think we have educational assessors who try to balance a complex system by assessing the needs of individual children. If you have evidence from your constituents that this is not working, then please discuss this with the secretary of education in your state, and I will review the implications in light of the SOS's report back. The education funding bill before us today will permit allocation of the right resources if the issue warrants it"

How much more productive might that be, compared to the hysterical and puerile "oohh ahh...she said a swear word" nonsense that actually ensued.

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^ There is probably violent agreement that (a) Hanson is not too smart ; and (b) case by case is the right framework, here. But I did pause at "senator Hanson wanted to politicize the issue..."

It's not really unreasonable for a politician to politicise a point about education practice and resourcing in a debate on schools funding.

She was typically blunt and clumsy in her thinking, but it was a reasonable point for a politician to make in parliament. I thought that what she she said was far more valid than the debate-shutting phony outrage howled by alternately lachrymose and bullying Labour politicians and the creepy Greens leader.

My comment about politicising the issue was linked to the fact One Nation needed to deflect attention from scrutiny on a host of issues including: their funding, potential breaches of the AEC rules, exploiting & alienating their traditional base, the role of the new Svengali, corrupt practices stemming from but not exclusive to the 4 Corners report.

[Mugwump]

^ There is probably violent agreement that (a) Hanson is not too smart ; and (b) case by case is the right framework, here. But I did pause at "senator Hanson wanted to politicize the issue..."

It's not really unreasonable for a politician to politicise a point about education practice and resourcing in a debate on schools funding.

She was typically blunt and clumsy in her thinking, but it was a reasonable point for a politician to make in parliament. I thought that what she she said was far more valid than the debate-shutting phony outrage howled by alternately lachrymose and bullying Labour politicians and the creepy Greens leader.

My comment about politicising the issue was linked to the fact One Nation needed to deflect attention from scrutiny on a host of issues including: their funding, potential breaches of the AEC rules, exploiting & alienating their traditional base, the role of the new Svengali, corrupt practices stemming from but not exclusive to the 4 Corners report.

If that was her intention, and I don't know how you'd prove it either way, the hyperventilators certainly hit the mark for her.

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[Mugwump]

^ sorry, but eye-rolling and intellectually patronizing me about the need for a "wider narrative" amid my "obsession" is pretty obnoxious. In the interests of civility I have just written then deleted the scathing reply that deserved.

Meanwhile, on topic, you still have a narrative that may be true, but probably isn't. I was here when the Hanson thing broke. It was a preposterous overreaction. The lack-brained Shorten called her comments "disgusting", which suggests a remarkably low disgust threshold for someone who has spent so long in Labour factional politics. If she was trying to divert attention, they certainly helped her do so.

[think positive]

Back on topic, good on these paramedics, hopefully the bully gets a lesson at school too

https://www.littlethings.com/fireman-bu ... paign=kids

[stui magpie]

Back on topic, good on these paramedics, hopefully the bully gets a lesson at school too

https://www.littlethings.com/fireman-bu ... paign=kids

that's actually a really nice story. good on them

[think positive]

Yeah it is. Cheers

[Skids]

One of the autistic kids at the school Kelly works at stabbed a teacher with a pair of scissors today. The same kid has previously assaulted another teacher, dislocating her thumb.
He's 6 years old.