The one that stings the most if you ask me is Brad Green at pick nineteen, considering the recruiters went for Danny Roach at seven and he was drafted from the Tassie Mariners.
We missed out on that one, big mistake because Green will go forward in leaps and bounds while the CochRoach is still in the starting blocks.
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MATTHEW PAVLICH WHAT A GUN
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Danzy Rocks!!!
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Rohan Coventry Tateson
The 1999 draft was a very talented pool of players.
Roach was taken at 7. Around him were Cupido, Beetham, Leigh Brown and Simmonds. Does anyone know where Roach is?
Shaw was taken at 18. Around him were Green, Spriggs, Murphy and Wheatley.
Davis and Johnson (apart from Fraser)appear to be bargain basements of that year's draft. Overall we wasted our top picks.
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Roach was taken at 7. Around him were Cupido, Beetham, Leigh Brown and Simmonds. Does anyone know where Roach is?
Shaw was taken at 18. Around him were Green, Spriggs, Murphy and Wheatley.
Davis and Johnson (apart from Fraser)appear to be bargain basements of that year's draft. Overall we wasted our top picks.
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Legga
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Danzy, he wasn't injured in the first Richmond game this year, where he played one qtr, had 0 kicks, 0 handball, 0 marks and 1 tackle. I think what we are all saying is if you trade the No. 3 pick for No. 7, then there is a mindset that says that we need to make the absolute most of that top 10 draft choice. Injured or not, we have had NO value for our No. 7 pick, and there appears to be players taken around the same time and later who have come on and have been regular senior players for other clubs. At the moment, we have had no selection at No. 7.
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I wouldn't criticise the drafting of Shaw.
I am all for drafting under the father/son rule because it is great for "tradition". That is, of course, providing the player has talent. I recall at the time that Shaw was a certain first round pick and having seen him in our reserves against Carlton that year, I was glad we got him. He now has to produce to stay but that is the same with anyone. I can't say I was/am as happy with the drafting of Roach ahead of some of the others, even on the basis of public knowledge at the time. The ony"defense", if one is required, is that the powers that be were after a certain type/build.
I am all for drafting under the father/son rule because it is great for "tradition". That is, of course, providing the player has talent. I recall at the time that Shaw was a certain first round pick and having seen him in our reserves against Carlton that year, I was glad we got him. He now has to produce to stay but that is the same with anyone. I can't say I was/am as happy with the drafting of Roach ahead of some of the others, even on the basis of public knowledge at the time. The ony"defense", if one is required, is that the powers that be were after a certain type/build.
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Hiya-and-Higher
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Macca,
I agree that it will be hard for Collingwood to get Pavilich, but it will be equally hard for him to end up in Adelaide.
Where he ends up will be ultimately decided by whom Fremantle wants to deal with. He has little say in his final destination, as he is a contracted player whom means Fremantle "hold all the cards".
The club that woos him will have to convince Fremantle that it's a win/win situation for the club. So therefore you are correct in saying that you have give away quality to get quality.
There is no way Collingwood would trade Davis, Fraser or Tarrant. They are the fabric you build a football side on and our easily the best three youngsters at Collingwood.
I am worried about Lockyer. He is uncontracted (at the end of season) and the possibility of him returning to Western Australia is high. We have to sign him up or lose risking him as an uncontracted player.
With Black being courted by Collingwood, Fremantle is a club we might have to deal with.
And the non-selection of Pavilich by Collingwood in the draft is not that bad compared to Adelaide's mistake. They had a chance to put him on the rookie list before he was drafted but didn't rate him highly enough.
In Skob We Trust
I agree that it will be hard for Collingwood to get Pavilich, but it will be equally hard for him to end up in Adelaide.
Where he ends up will be ultimately decided by whom Fremantle wants to deal with. He has little say in his final destination, as he is a contracted player whom means Fremantle "hold all the cards".
The club that woos him will have to convince Fremantle that it's a win/win situation for the club. So therefore you are correct in saying that you have give away quality to get quality.
There is no way Collingwood would trade Davis, Fraser or Tarrant. They are the fabric you build a football side on and our easily the best three youngsters at Collingwood.
I am worried about Lockyer. He is uncontracted (at the end of season) and the possibility of him returning to Western Australia is high. We have to sign him up or lose risking him as an uncontracted player.
With Black being courted by Collingwood, Fremantle is a club we might have to deal with.
And the non-selection of Pavilich by Collingwood in the draft is not that bad compared to Adelaide's mistake. They had a chance to put him on the rookie list before he was drafted but didn't rate him highly enough.
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Danzy Rocks!!!
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Macca19
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There is no way Collingwood would trade Davis, Fraser or Tarrant. They are the fabric you build a football side on
As is Pavlich. You must trade quality to get Quality. If you think you can trade Betheras and Ben Kinnear to Freo for a Pavlich then you are much mistaken.
Pavlich is probably the top youngster at Freo and is potentially the next Wayne Carey of the competition.
Any team that is gonna get him thru a trade is gonna pay a hefty price thats for sure
As is Pavlich. You must trade quality to get Quality. If you think you can trade Betheras and Ben Kinnear to Freo for a Pavlich then you are much mistaken.
Pavlich is probably the top youngster at Freo and is potentially the next Wayne Carey of the competition.
Any team that is gonna get him thru a trade is gonna pay a hefty price thats for sure
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