Is society getting worse?

HAL · Post by **HAL** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:02 pm

What kind of people are you talking about? Aren't you usually honest?

luvdids · Post by **luvdids** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:29 pm

Yes Hal, I'm honest & let me tell you - it drives people MAD!! Lots of people much prefer to surround themselves with shy little sheep.

HAL · Post by **HAL** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:31 pm

I'm not sure if I would like to do surround themselves with shy sheep . What's it like?

Post by **think positive** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:59 pm

HAL wrote:I'm not sure if I would like to do surround themselves with shy sheep . What's it like?

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-d

Post by **David** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:06 pm

luvdids wrote:Yes, society's getting worse. Honestly, what's wrong with some people??!!
http://www.9news.com.au/world/2017/07/2 ... man-drowns

Interesting question (and one that doesn't necessarily have an easy answer): given that this is an American story, is it really our society?

Post by **stui magpie** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:40 pm

David wrote:
luvdids wrote:Yes, society's getting worse. Honestly, what's wrong with some people??!!
http://www.9news.com.au/world/2017/07/2 ... man-drowns
Interesting question (and one that doesn't necessarily have an easy answer): given that this is an American story, is it really our society?

It's potentially us in the not too distant future.

The level of callousness and disengagement needed to do what they did in that vid is insane. It was like they were watching it on TV, but it was real.

Post by **David** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:05 pm

I ask because in some ways America is very much like us culturally and in some ways it very much isn't. I'm taking it as assumed here that we wouldn't look at a video of some atrocity happening in the Democratic Republic of Congo and say "what is wrong with our society?". And then that raises the question of what we actually mean by "our" society to begin with.

Post by **think positive** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:22 pm

Post by **David** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:53 pm

Oh, no doubt that's the most relevant question here. I'm just asking more in the context of this thread, i.e. does this indicate a problem with our society, or is it happening in another society that is somewhat alien to ours?

Leaving that to one side, I wonder how many went along with it to impress their mates and how they would have reacted if they had been on their own. Teenage boys as a group are not always the most caring types.

Post by **stui magpie** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:08 pm

14-16 year old boys watching a (although they couldn't know it) disabled man drown.

Empathy isn't my strong suit but if I did that at that age I'd crank up the Delorean to go back and kick my own arse

Post by **David** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:25 am

I think (or at least hope) that it's unusually callous behaviour; but this kind of passive cruelty probably isn't anything particularly new or extraordinary.

luvdids · Post by **luvdids** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:37 am

David wrote:I ask because in some ways America is very much like us culturally and in some ways it very much isn't. I'm taking it as assumed here that we wouldn't look at a video of some atrocity happening in the Democratic Republic of Congo and say "what is wrong with our society?". And then that raises the question of what we actually mean by "our" society to begin with.

Pretty sure the thread title is "is society getting worse", no mention of "OUR". And if the video was from the Democratic Republic of Congo I'd feel the same way about it, wouldn't you?

Morrigu · Post by **Morrigu** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:38 pm

Pelican dies after two men seen kicking, stomping it in vicious St Albans attack
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/pelic ... xhgiq.html

Just the last in an increasing list of horrific acts of animal cruelty! We could help society by ridding it of oxygen thieves like these!!

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."

Post by **David** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:56 pm

watt price tully · Post by **watt price tully** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:03 pm

Morrigu wrote:Pelican dies after two men seen kicking, stomping it in vicious St Albans attack
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/pelic ... xhgiq.html

Just the last in an increasing list of horrific acts of animal cruelty! We could help society by ridding it of oxygen thieves like these!!

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."

It's sickening. Animal cruelty is such a shocker but is that worse now than it was?

Our future psychopaths & criminals (that aren't in parliament or run corporations)

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Is society getting worse?