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One certainly tends to think so. Would be good to hear a strong case against, though.
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The greens won't let you down David .....


Greens senator Rachel Siewert said the mining magnate was using the same tactics as the Howard government in 2007 over the Northern Territory intervention and so-called "Basics Card

"Using violent imagery then offering a one-dimensional, paternalistic and previously failed approach to a complex problem shows that Andrew Forrest is more concerned about furthering his ideologies than looking at what works," she said.

"We should stop wasting money on income management-style approaches and start looking at real solutions that work"..... without offering any :?

He said opponents of the cards, including the Greens, were covering themselves in shame.






https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/andrew-f ... b88564370z
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Forrest certainly isn't doing his cause's credibility any favours with this sort of childish rhetoric. This is all starting to smell a lot like the NT intervention, where an expose of the worst violence and abuse in Indigenous communities leads to a heavy-handed 'something must be done' response that only makes Aboriginal people feel like they're being targeted again. It's a shame doubly because some of what he says rings true: many urban progressives genuinely don't seem to care about violence and abuse in Indigenous communities and only seem to get exercised when they have white racists to point the finger at. However, Forrest's over-the-top behaviour is just ensuring that there can be no sensible middle ground in this debate, meaning that once again, either nothing gets done, or the wrong approach is applied without adequate consideration.

I'm also perplexed as to why he's having a go at the Greens here. Their support won't make any difference (and they've made it perfectly clear that they won't support it at any rate); it's the two major parties he needs onside. Sounds more like a few old grudges are coming to the surface.

Note that I'm still not opposed in theory to his proposal, but it's something that needs worthy, measured consideration, not something that's a) targeted at Aboriginal communities specifically or b) a knee-jerk response to some guy's 'greatest hits' Indigenous violence supercut.
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I wouldn't know, but there are non aboriginal families where substance abuse and violence is common.
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partypie wrote:I wouldn't know, but there are non aboriginal families where substance abuse and violence is common.
There definitely is. But nothing in comparison to some communities.

This is from 2013... sadly, not much has changed.


DO you want the shocking truth?

There's a place in the world where dreadful violence is regularly inflicted upon women - rape, terrifying assault and murder.
In this place, women of a certain ethnic group are 80 times more likely to be hospitalised for assault and injury.

In this place, up to 20 people live in some houses and children are stressed out and neglected.

In remote areas, up to 65 per cent of children attend school for fewer than three days a week and up to 60 per cent of them fail the national early developmental index which measures a child's ability to cope with starting school.

Apart from the outrageously high rates of violence, unemployment is rife, and thousands of people are battling alcohol and gambling abuse.


Aboriginal men and to a lesser extent Aboriginal women and non-indigenous men were responsible for violence against Aboriginal women.

Dr Bath blamed alcohol and drug abuse, overcrowding and "consistent unemployment".

"Alcohol is the worst factor by a country mile," he said.

"Between 60 and 70 per cent of violence is directly related to alcohol.

"The facts are generally known, but it's a delicate area.

"Most of the people who are familiar with the details don't want to put a set of shameful allegations against the Aboriginal community and in particular the menfolk."


If these women victims were white, we would hear very loud outrage from feminists.

If their killers had been white, we would hear outrage from the Indigenous activists.

Why is there such a deafening silence when both victim and perpetrator are black?

"I believe that we can blame the politics of the progressive left and its comfortably middle class urban Indigenous supporters."

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A good friend of mine worked closely with Forrest a few years ago.

He isn't the bloke he'd like the public to believe he is. An arrogant, tight arse wanker is the description I've been given.
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Skids wrote:A good friend of mine worked closely with Forrest a few years ago.

He isn't the bloke he'd like the public to believe he is. An arrogant, tight arse wanker is the description I've been given.
I've heard similar ... But at least some of the resources industry is Australian owned
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