Police killings in the USA

[David]

I find it kind of inspiring that the players are doing this. A moving public statement of solidarity.

[stui magpie]

This guy had me almost in tears last night:

http://americanmilitarynews.com/2017/09 ... m=facebook

http://metro.co.uk/2017/09/25/why-are-n ... s-6953185/

Another point of view,

https://regiehammblog.wordpress.com/201 ... -contract/

Maybe it was the way I was brought up, but I can't imagine ever not standing quietly for any national anthem, certainly not my own....

Good mix of articles.

I get both sides of the argument. Interesting that the bloke who started it seems to have been ostracised from the NFL while others are carrying it on.

I'm not a fan of disrespecting the national anthem, when it's not a federal issue as such. The Police they are protesting are county employees with potentially less training than our Sheriffs.

It's a good cause, is it the right way to go about it? It's certainly got attention which means it's effective at starting a conversation. Whether it's the right conversation or not is also up for grabs.

[David]

Top US basketballer Lebron James lays out what's going on quite eloquently:

https://youtu.be/Ou5JMYikW98

The people run this country, not one individual. And damn sure not him.

[think positive]

Lebron James, absolute superstar, had the pleasure of watching him play for Miami heat in Florida back in 2012, and he puts his money where his mouth is, putting thousands through college, and doing s lot more besides.

And of course Trump being Trump, trying to shut it down with no class at all. I wonder how Obama would have dealt with it.

Interesting to see if there are any stats since Trump has been in power, has anything changed?

[Pies4shaw]

Well, Aaron Rodgers threw his first pick-6 since 2009 and his first ever at Lambeau Field. That's probably the single most newsworthy thing that's happened in Green Bay, Wisconsin since Trump took power.

[Mountains Magpie]

Top US basketballer Lebron James lays out what's going on quite eloquently:

https://youtu.be/Ou5JMYikW98

The people run this country, not one individual. And damn sure not him.

Sure they do Mr James, suuuure they do

[David]

[thesoretoothsayer]

Unfortunately, these things quickly degenerate from "Players should be free to take the knee" to "If you don't take the knee you're a Nazi".

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/whi ... df5e83afcd

[regan is true fullback]

the soretoothsayer wrote:

Unfortunately, these things quickly degenerate from "Players should be free to take the knee" to "If you don't take the knee you're a Nazi".

There was a white bloke who stood in solidarity with the black power salute way back in 1968. The Arthurs and the Judys made sure he never represented Australia again...

[thesoretoothsayer]

the soretoothsayer wrote:

Unfortunately, these things quickly degenerate from "Players should be free to take the knee" to "If you don't take the knee you're a Nazi".

There was a white bloke who stood in solidarity with the black power salute way back in 1968. The Arthurs and the Judys made sure he never represented Australia again...

Yep, Peter Norman bravely chose to stand in solidarity with his fellow athletes.
This is very different from someone saying that Peter Norman must stand in solidarity with his fellow athletes or else he is a white supremacist.

[Culprit]

Gotta Love it. Freedom of Speech and Freedom to Protest but only if we agree to what you say and do.

Trump is a White Supremacists, the modern day Hitler.

[David]

Unfortunately, these things quickly degenerate from "Players should be free to take the knee" to "If you don't take the knee you're a Nazi".

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/whi ... df5e83afcd

Just more proof of our ever more polarised societies, I fear. This sort of fracturing usually doesn't end well.

[Jezza]

Trump is a White Supremacists, the modern day Hitler.

[HAL]

I think [quoteCulprit] Trump is more than that.

[think positive]