Triple M plans for Hottest 100 ambush

[thesoretoothsayer]

relatively fortunate for the Aboriginal people that their inevitable colonization occurred under the occasionally idealistic British, rather than the available alternatives such as Japanese, German, Spanish, Portuguese, Belgian or Dutch

The main competitor at the time was, I believe, the French. It could be argued that our indigenous community might've been better off if the French, rather than the British, had colonised the continent.

[Mugwump]

[luvdids]

A few years ago JJJ had the "greatest of all time "100. From a distant memory they had something like 3 female artists.

Can't imagine Triple M being much different in that department

[ronrat]

relatively fortunate for the Aboriginal people that their inevitable colonization occurred under the occasionally idealistic British, rather than the available alternatives such as Japanese, German, Spanish, Portuguese, Belgian or Dutch

The main competitor at the time was, I believe, the French. It could be argued that our indigenous community might've been better off if the French, rather than the British, had colonised the continent.

Could you imagine what would have happened had say the Dutch taken WA and Tasmania , the Germans Far north Qld, The french the Sydney area and Britain Victoria and SA. We could have WW1 at home.

[David]

[stui magpie]

We need to include the Aboriginal people, but not to the extent of denial of facts. When white settlement came, the Aboriginals were not a united nation but around 250 different nations across the continent, many at war with each other, and the differences in culture and physical attributes between nations was often stark.

They had no common language, culture, or anything else that could bring them together. As they were basically stone age subsistence livers, they were treated paternalistically as such by 18th century Englishmen.

By way of comparison, white men conquered the southern half of Africa and gave it back to the Bantu peoples in their various tribes who now run the show, but they weren't the original inhabitants, these were the hotentots and bushmen, the latter of whom were classified the same as wild dogs and could be shot on sight.

I have issues with the whole sulking about "dispossession". It's like complaining that the paddock that you had a shanty on used to be yours now that it has a house on it that someone else built. You were never going to build that house, just live in the shanty.

[David]

[stui magpie]

Damn right I would, I've paid for and improved the house.

But if they came along to the paddock as per the example, where I had a shanty, different argument.

I don't see any of those protesters wanting to go back to how it was prior to colonisation, most of them would die in a few weeks.

[Mugwump]

[stui magpie]

The British Isles were invaded and conquered so many times the locals should have installed a revolving gate on the coast with a toll booth, "next conqueror pay here"

[David]

[Mugwump]

[Jezza]

The Greens pushing for changing the date!

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/ ... 0hzto.html

[David]

^ Why does that surprise you? It's hardly a radical position for them to take, given broader left and centre-left views on the issue. I think most people would have been surprised if they didn't have a position on changing the date of Australia Day (it's likely within Labor that the real ideological struggle will take place over the issue).

[Skids]