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Post by **Donny** » Mon May 07, 2018 1:22 am

Collingwood 19.7.121
Brisbane 18.6.114

12 goalkickers: de Goey 5, Thomas 3, Stevo 2, H-E, Varcoe, Cox, Phillips, Howe, Mayne, Moore, Treloar, Pendles 1

Disposals: Sidey 34, Phillips 28, Treloar, Murray 24, Thomas 22, Stevo 21, de Goey, Pendles 20, Varcoe, Crisp 19, Mayne 18, Howe 17, Grundy, Blair 16, Adams, Shaz 14, Appleby, H-E 13,

D/E: Mayne 90%, Phillips 85.7, Howe 82.4, Thomas 82, Cox 90% 10 disposals, so 9 to advantage.

Tackles: Grundy 11, Treloar 7.

AF Points: Phillips 114, de Goey 113, Thomas 103, Sidey 110, Grundy 111, Murray 101, Treloar 100

K · Post by K » Mon May 07, 2018 1:37 am

jatsad wrote:Why does Buckley have to be so obstinate and pig-headed?
Zorko has failed this year with a hard tag on him but Buckley refuses...
...
Adams would make a perfect tagger ...

Can someone confirm who actually did play on Zorko? The claim post-Mitchell was that they tried to mute him and failed.

Post by **think positive** » Mon May 07, 2018 6:21 am

ronrat · Post by **ronrat** » Mon May 07, 2018 6:39 am

The solution to the mid week ANZAC fixtures is too obvious for the 2000 dickheads working for the AFL. Port and the Suns get a bye for the China game the week after, Give the 4 Melbourne based clubs a bye the week after and those 4 plus Port and Suns play on the bye weekend. You could have a game friday, Saturday, and Sunday and one of those will be interstate, Say Collingwood- Richmond Friday. Gold Coast and Melbourne Sunday and Essendon-Port Saturday night. or some other mixture. The China can be scheduled anytime so have it say the Thursday after ANZAC day or even as the a monday night game before it. The timing of the bye is not that important. Pllayers have been training for 4 or 5 months. A 10 day break or 14 is hardly a difference. They can still piss off Bali for a week or whatever. The AFLPA mandate that all players get say 8 days off. They will still run and use weights etc, Just not have the body contact.

So what if only 7 games are on the weekend after. 2 or 3 are clashes anyway.

BazBoy · Post by **BazBoy** » Mon May 07, 2018 7:03 am

Mon May 07, 2018 7:14 am

It was ugly but to hold on after Brisbane's relentless pressure, bizarrely unusual straight kicking for goal and some dodgy home crowd umpiring, for me, that was just as impressive as our win in Adelaide. Only two players to mention, both for very different reasons.. Jordan DeGoey - beast, star and match winner. Mayne - if I see his name in the 22 again, I'll throw up!

BazBoy · Post by **BazBoy** » Mon May 07, 2018 7:24 am

Skids · Post by **Skids** » Mon May 07, 2018 7:45 am

ronrat wrote:The solution to the mid week ANZAC fixtures is too obvious for the 2000 dickheads working for the AFL. Port and the Suns get a bye for the China game the week after, Give the 4 Melbourne based clubs a bye the week after and those 4 plus Port and Suns play on the bye weekend. You could have a game friday, Saturday, and Sunday and one of those will be interstate, Say Collingwood- Richmond Friday. Gold Coast and Melbourne Sunday and Essendon-Port Saturday night. or some other mixture. The China can be scheduled anytime so have it say the Thursday after ANZAC day or even as the a monday night game before it. The timing of the bye is not that important. Pllayers have been training for 4 or 5 months. A 10 day break or 14 is hardly a difference. They can still piss off Bali for a week or whatever. The AFLPA mandate that all players get say 8 days off. They will still run and use weights etc, Just not have the body contact.

So what if only 7 games are on the weekend after. 2 or 3 are clashes anyway.

This makes a lot of sense.

Raw Hammer · Post by **Raw Hammer** » Mon May 07, 2018 8:25 am

MatthewBoydFanClub · Post by **MatthewBoydFanClub** » Mon May 07, 2018 8:32 am

K wrote:
jatsad wrote:Why does Buckley have to be so obstinate and pig-headed?
Zorko has failed this year with a hard tag on him but Buckley refuses...
...
Adams would make a perfect tagger ...
Can someone confirm who actually did play on Zorko? The claim post-Mitchell was that they tried to mute him and failed.

To beat a contested ball winner like Zorko you need a player who can block his path and do it in such a way that the umpire doesn't blow his whistle. We don't have such a player since Crisp is playing behind the ball and Greenwood is injured. If Wills is fit he could be such a player to do it, but he may find himself behind the pecking order with Sier named as the emergency. If you don't have the players to do the job against a player like Zorko what's the coach supposed to do? Clubs have tried to tag Tom Mitchell. Clubs have tried run with players to stop Mitchell. If you concentrate too hard to negate the efforts of one player, another player pops up and destroys you. If you play a player like Treloar to play on Zorko you may lose the creative runs of Treloar down the forward line. Adams yesterday wasn't fit enough to take Zorko on but Adams was involved in two creative plays in the last quarter that resulted in goals. Do you give up the chance to create goals down one end of the ground in order to stop a player going down the other end and kicking goals? It's a balance you need to get right. The defenders didn't get it right yesterday either so why blame the mids for not being able to contain Zorko? Zorko wasn't the only Brisbane mid out there. Beams did a lot of damage too, especially that goal he kicked in the last quarter. Pendlebury not being out there harmed us. Be grateful for the win in front of a hostile crowd and a set of umpires who gave us nothing all day apart from the obvious frees.

MatthewBoydFanClub · Post by **MatthewBoydFanClub** » Mon May 07, 2018 8:42 am

Post by **Pies2016** » Mon May 07, 2018 8:58 am

Post by **think positive** » Mon May 07, 2018 9:19 am

foreigner · Post by **foreigner** » Mon May 07, 2018 12:10 pm

Whatever is said, it was a riveting game and we won. I was there to witness it and it was great, never expected so many pies supporters but they turned out in numbers. Yes, it wasn't MCGesque, but they were singing good old Collingwood forever in the streets after the game.

Both teams made mistakes, but the goal kicking was superb. Any time we score 19.7 I'll take it (18.6 for the Lions). There were a lot of momentum swings and yet we persisted. It wasn't the Collingwood of last year, who would have faded away in the 3rd or 4th quarter.

We are a team on the rise, and this type of games will hold us in good stead and improve self-belief. We shouldn't expect the team to bulldoze everyone in front of them, that is to have unrealistic expectations with many teams being capable of toppling any other team. Only exception maybe the tigers at the moment with momentum and being extraordinarily luck on the injury front - surely it can't last and in a way it seems they are peaking at the wrong time - September is more than 3 months away.

It's promising to be an exciting season, after many disappointing ones, and I for one am going to enjoy the ride. There's lot of things the Pies do that we can look forward to watching.

Post by **BBHS** » Mon May 07, 2018 12:19 pm

This game reminded me of the time Clinton Young made me kick my TV screen in. Foreigner is right, we have lost a lot of these games over the past 4 years. Another step in the right direction I believe.

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