Eurydice Dixon

[stui magpie]

For those who've been under a rock, a young woman was attacked and killed while walking from the CBD to Carlton, alone at night.

This time, there's no serial bad guy who should've already been in gaol except for bail magistrates, a 19 year old with (some degree of ) Autism and no prior record has been charged with rape and murder.

How do we react to this?

Some of the usual shriekers have already jumped on blaming "Toxic violent men", throwing all people of that gender into the bucket of potential murderers and rapists.

Others have made comments about the need to feel safe at night which, on the surface is a fair expectation, but is it genuinely realistic? In my opinion anyone walking alone at night in a dimly lit area with few people around, is taking a risk. Not just rape or murder but also of general assault. You could find yourself bashed for your phone and wallet because some junkie wants cash for a hit.

I read that there will now be a 24/7 police presence around Princes park, but we all know that won't last, it's a temporary knee jerk to be seen to be doing something.

Is there a solution or is this just how society is and we need to adapt to it?

[Pies4shaw]

[stui magpie]

A "Practically useless label" used by some to paint all males as at fault.

I'm male, so are you.
I've never Raped, murdered or assaulted anyone, sexually or otherwise, nor molested my children and I suspect neither have you.

The thing is, we aren't unusual in that, the mast majority of males could say the same thing.

So it's a small minority of people who do these these, the majority of them happen to be male. Saying that "men need to change" is also IMO a useless but demeaning statement as the vast majority don't need to change and the few that do, won't or can't.

I suspect in time more will come out as to the circumstances of this case. I suspect that it will prove to be different than the predatory behaviour displayed in the Meagher case and that there may be very few signs that could have been picked up. It's all quite sad.

[David]

[stui magpie]

^

Why do people who know it's wrong to lie, steal and kill still do it?

[David]

^ Precisely. We need a more sophisticated approach.

[stui magpie]

A more sophisticated approach to what? detection and prevention, education or punishment?

People are complex critters. They do things all the time that they know they aren't supposed to. "Education" by belting people over the head doesn't work. See the latest quit smoking add for an example, which says "nagging doesn't work"

With psychopaths and sociopaths as exceptions, people do things because of consequences, either positive or negative. Risk v reward. I'm willing to bet that when the facts come out in this case there will be little that in hindight that would have tagged this young man as a potential rapist/murderer, yet here we are.

[thesoretoothsayer]

I find this stuff annoying:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-15/w ... ed/9873588

How is reminding women that there are evil predators out there a form of victim-blaming?
Is telling your child not to get into a car with a stranger victim-blaming?

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[HAL]

Good then you can explain it to me.

[David]

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[Pies4shaw]

[HAL]

Signs point to yes.

[stui magpie]