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Oh, you are a poet.
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In terms Leyonhjelm here Hanson-Young has every right to call out this pig of a politician.
That's my problem. I don't understand what she's calling him out for.
Making inappropriate reference to her sex life, I guess. In most professional contexts that'd be a sanctionable offence, but in parliament I guess it's just an average Thursday afternoon.
It would be more accurate to say "Just an average Thusday afternoon for the creep Leyonhjelm".
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The LDP is a libertarian party. The have a bunch of policies.
Some I like such as drug reform, euthanasia, same-sex marriage and free speech. Some I don't like such as gun ownership and wholesale privatisation.

To define the party as being simply about gun-legislation is incorrect.
To claim that the party's support is almost exclusively male requires a citation.
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The biggest issue I have with this is that people who disagree with Hanson- Young to the point they actually hate her, feel it's fine for the other idiot to attack her and bully her. It's like if he raped her then that's OK as I don't like her. The idiot is loving the attention. He is being attacked by all sides and is so funny he preaches freedom of speech but only if he agrees with the speech. Hopefully he is ejected at the next election.
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Do you know the smallest issue he or she have with this is that people who disagree with Hanson- Young to the point they hate her feel it's fine for the other idiot to attack her and bully her?
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he preaches freedom of speech but only if he agrees with the speech
Evidence please.
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Where did [quote]

he or she don't know if such statistics a available but there's no question that the LDP take than a other party struggles to attract women one takes Dale's claim that 'quite a few' members are women with a grain of salt and the vast majority of their candidates are male

httpswww dotsmhdot comdot aupoliticsfederalthe-party-accused-of-forgetting-women-liberal-democrats-call-for-more-chicks-20160609-gpf68x are available but there's no question that the LDP more than more than a other party struggles to attract women one?
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I think this whole thing is a sad reflection on the quality of our politicians.

IF she said all men a rapists, she deserved a response but that was just juvenile and poor. I wouldn't necessarily say it's sexist, but that is one of the ist words that's way overused these days.

The way she's responded is nearly as bad as him, so I don't have a particularly high opinion of either of them.
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stui magpie wrote:I think this whole thing is a sad reflection on the quality of our politicians.

IF she said all men a rapists, she deserved a response but that was just juvenile and poor. I wouldn't necessarily say it's sexist, but that is one of the ist words that's way overused these days.

The way she's responded is nearly as bad as him, so I don't have a particularly high opinion of either of them.
Hanson Young did not say all men are rapists. Hanson Young said (unambiguously) that men need to stop raping women - a universal truth. (Nothing wrong with that)

Leyonholm told her to stop shagging men. (Plenty wrong with that)

Hanson Young's comments were a unversal truism
Leyonholm's comments were personal and particularisitic

The obvious discrepancy has been picked up by a lot of people & most "decent" people would apologise & realise they made an error of judgment. Leyonhjolm like a petulant unrepentant teenager keeps backing himself into a corner being "liked" by a few sad blokes. David in my view is overstating the extent of the male deplorables :wink: :P

Even the Mad Misogynist Monk knows Lleyonholm has overstepped the mark.

Leyonhjelm reminds me of a young woman patient (pt) I had to deal with in the ED last week. She abused a female staff member - the pt was in her late 20's - has a traumatic history from being raped by men when she was young and growing up but was out of control on this occasion as she wanted a smoke, wanted a smoke there & then & the nurse quite rightly declined her request at that moment in time saying she needed to speak with me first. This was met with a response by the pt that was violent and threatening in its verbal expression. I intervened as I learned of the interaction & got the pt & the nurse to go through who said what to whom. I intervened and explained the pt can't threaten anyone and can't abuse anyone as the staff are here to assist & not to be abused. It took me three goes but the pt eventually apologised and was acting like a teenage brat. I rewarded the apology by taking her out for a smoke (which we don't usually do) but I needed to further assess her to determine risk to herself and if she was basically mad bad or sad (she'd used ice a few days earlier which complicated matters) - I wasable to discharge her when I was in a postion to determine she was not at risk to herself and others ( taking people out for a smoke can be the best place for assesments)!

Like Leyonhjolm she was a brat and couldn't take responsibility for her actions. Childlike. At least she has a traumatic history to help explain why she is like she is. Leyonhjolm has no such excuse: just a pig of a bloke really.
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IF that was what she said (it could have been phrased better but otherwise is a truism, yes) then his response was even more childish and petulant than I first considered. Her carry on about "slut shaming" is still ridiculous and does her little credit though.

You seem surprised that a 20 something would behave like like a child, they're growing up a lot later these days.
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^

I actually agree 100%. Very well constructed argument.
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