What made you happy today?

[luvdids]

[K]

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I think domesticated cats are really evil, and had thought that the wild variety did not have that evil element. Is that wrong?

Part of the problem with domesticated cats is their owners, who seem to think it's fine for them to slaughter hundreds of thousands of birds a year (for example).

The animals aren't evil, they just aren't humans and have none of our emotions, morals and hangups.
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Domestic cats are relatively intelligent and seem to get pleasure from what humans would regard as wanton acts of cruelty and killing. Should we excuse them from the label "evil"?

[stui magpie]

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I think domesticated cats are really evil, and had thought that the wild variety did not have that evil element. Is that wrong?

Part of the problem with domesticated cats is their owners, who seem to think it's fine for them to slaughter hundreds of thousands of birds a year (for example).

The animals aren't evil, they just aren't humans and have none of our emotions, morals and hangups.
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Domestic cats are relatively intelligent and seem to get pleasure from what humans would regard as wanton acts of cruelty and killing. Should we excuse them from the label "evil"?

I don't particularly like cats, but yes we should.

They aren't human, they're cats. Do they have fun tormenting an injured bird or mouse? Yes. They have just as much fun doing the same with a toy one.

They have no concept of cruel, or right and wrong for that matter. When people anthromorphise animals and ascribe human emotions and behaviours to them, they're way over complicating something that's just animal behaviour.

[K]

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If cats have no conscience and hence moral responsibility, despite being relatively intelligent, should we then hold their owners morally responsible for acts we consider evil?

[stui magpie]

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Depends on the act. It's not the owners fault that the cat kills thing, that's their nature. It's the owners fault that the cat is outside and therefore able to kill things.

Feral cats are a massive problem. Can't blame their owners though. https://www.sbs.com.au/news/australia-s ... -day-study

https://www.smh.com.au/environment/cons ... 4zn9p.html

[luvdids]

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If cats have no conscience and hence moral responsibility, despite being relatively intelligent, should we then hold their owners morally responsible for acts we consider evil?

Geez, let it go, domestic cat behaviour has nothing to do with wild lions killing poachers.

However, not ALL domestic cat owners let their pets roam around killing animals. Dogs also kill animals you know, often other pets. And yes, their owners are held responsible. Are the acts considered "evil"? Really? As Stui said, it's in the animals nature, ergo, natural. Just like a lion eating a wildebeest's balls.

[K]

^ That's actually what annoys me: dogs are held to a vastly higher standard, an almost impossible-to-meet standard, while cats are allowed to get away with just about anything. The things they put dogs down for... if they applied the same standards to cats, there would hardly be any cats left. As I said previously, it's the domestic cats I've always found despicable, not the wild ones. There are whole bird species being wiped out because cat-owners think it's cruel to keep their cats indoors or to wear collars with bells. How sad.

[stui magpie]

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I'm a dog person, but a large dog is quite capable of severely injuring or even killing a human. That's what they get put down for. The largest domestic cat, can't. They're environmental vandals and I personally wouldn't shed a tear if all of them, domestic and feral, were wiped out in Australia, but an animal that's just acting on it's instincts isn't evil.

[Wokko]

Just picked this up
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The man or the car?

Haha! Missed this one. I'm the man in the picture

[think positive]

[stui magpie]

[HAL]

All?

[Mugwump]

[stui magpie]

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Killing a lion was always a status symbol, going back to Zulu tribesmen and when lions were plentiful, because they are an apex predator.

Nowdays, with canned hunting and modern rifles, shooting a lion is just an exercise in penis enlargement by wealthy phucktards who have no concept of real hunting.

[Mugwump]