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Since this topic has floated to the top of the tank, It gives me an opportunity to note that my comment above that Theresa May "might, just might, be up to the job" was suitably qualified. She might have been..... But clearly time has shown that she is not. There seem to be no good leaders in any major Western democracy, because the institutions that underlay great leadership have been so battered by interest groups and people without any educated historical memory. If Merkel comes closest, it's because Germany is perhaps the one country that must always remember where it came from, and knows instinctively the meaning of its history and the dangers of playing fast and loose with institutions for the sake of political opportunism. Britain, damaged by years of post modernist education and lacking a real Conservative Party, thinks it can tear down several supporting walls within its key trading relationship and its legal system, all within two years, because 52% said they wanted to leave the Eu on unspecified terms. It is a real shame.
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^May's disinterest in responsible leadership was predictable because, much like an Abbott or a Trump, her record is straightforward: not the slightest hint of interest in the task of building a coherent society in the globalised 21st century.

And if her lack of interest in that wasn't clear already, the fact she primed immigration fears, even as Cameron and Osborne fanned austerity panic, and the Johnsons and Farages of the world promised 1950, surely closed the case.

That we can talk about, even if we disagree.

But then you break into detached internet talk which could have as little as zero basis in reality, and is beyond sensible discussion. No one even knows what "interest groups and people without any educated historical memory" are (and compared to whom and what), or how you would even go about defining and identifying them.

Nor does anyone know if Britain has been "damaged" (and by how much and compared to what and when), let alone whether something called a "postmodern education" is responsible for that purported damage.

That stuff is little more than internet meme.
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^. Compare and contrast :

"No interest in building a coherent society in a globalised 21st century" ; "fanned austerity panic" with ....

"....Then you break into detached internet talk", "memes".

Oh, the irony..... discussions, like banks, are not worth the deposit unless they offer honest dealing.
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