There are many questions (which I said, but perhaps to no avail)... Whether or not "we" can do anything about something is independent of that something. That's certainly not a good reason not to talk about that something.
I'm not just talking about "rules"; I'm talking about the sentiments of normal posters. Actually, it's not significantly easier to prevent an oppo supporter posting than to stop them reading. They could just not declare, Dooley-style, that they are an oppo supporter. And then what? If it were closed (and no one has suggested GD should be closed), that would actually make it identically easy to read and post. As things stand, it's somewhat easier psychologically for oppo supporters to read than to post.
There are also plenty of examples of things that people would not want out in the wider public... Perhaps such things should not be posted at all. I suspect there are big differences of opinion on that...
One advantage of Nick's BB over a certain other forum is that it's somewhat removed from other supporters. Some people in that other forum like being in proximity to and combat with other supporters. I've never got the impression that people here think like that.
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You joined in 2011 so how would you know about the Saints fan in 2010? Unless you were a 'guest'??K wrote:There are so many issues, I don't know where to begin... with randomly chosen points in small portions, I guess.
As a GD example, it's always been the case that oppo supporters have not been welcome, and presumably that feeling extends to visiting and not just commenting. There was a Saints fan around 2010 who participated and was treated cordially, but that's about it...
Why stop there? How do I know about stuff in 2002? Apart from the fact that many people have changed their usernames for whatever reasons at least once (you might not have, but the former "luvdaisy" changed her name to "dai$yisthedevil"), this is not some sort of anti-guest thread, you know. I too can view posts right now as a guest, though I have to be logged in to post this. That doesn't mean I would (for example) quit the forum in disgust if I had to log in to view it; I would just log in. Maybe other people are different in that respect, and that's the sort of thing I'd like to know (along with many other things).luvdids wrote:...
You joined in 2011 so how would you know about the Saints fan in 2010? Unless you were a 'guest'??
You are the one who complained recently about something like "no one posting" and "the forum being dead". I don't see how all those guests are going to help you with that complaint (though I don't know that making the forum closed would help either). If you look back at the sample comments from the GD thread (that I quoted on the previous page), you'll see that posters didn't want to drive people away. They wanted people to join and join in the discussion.
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I certainly didn't 'complain' about it, was merely an observation. No clue what guests helping with a non existent complaint has to do with anything?K wrote:Why stop there? How do I know about stuff in 2002? Apart from the fact that many people have changed their usernames for whatever reasons at least once (you might not have, but the former "luvdaisy" changed her name to "dai$yisthedevil"), this is not some sort of anti-guest thread, you know. I too can view posts right now as a guest, though I have to be logged in to post this. That doesn't mean I would (for example) quit the forum in disgust if I had to log in to view it; I would just log in. Maybe other people are different in that respect, and that's the sort of thing I'd like to know (along with many other things).luvdids wrote:...
You joined in 2011 so how would you know about the Saints fan in 2010? Unless you were a 'guest'??
You are the one who complained recently about something like "no one posting" and "the forum being dead". I don't see how all those guests are going to help you with that complaint (though I don't know that making the forum closed would help either). If you look back at the sample comments from the GD thread (that I quoted on the previous page), you'll see that posters didn't want to drive people away. They wanted people to join and join in the discussion.
As for going back and searching to see who's changed their name to what - no thanks, better things to do. Must make sure my grass is still growing.
Closing the forum is a ridiculous idea, can't we just leave it at that?
I never asked you to "go back and search to see who's changed their name to what". It's clear that I never suggested doing anything like that (in fact, I don't know how one could do such a thing; there is no list of name changes one could look up), so why do you try to imply that I did?
Your opinion about making the forum closed has been noted.
I don't have strong views on whether to describe your comments as an "observation" or a "complaint". I have now been reminded that you did blame the alleged morgue-like state of the forum not on non-posters but on allegedly inane (but not explicitly named) posters.
Your opinion about making the forum closed has been noted.
I don't have strong views on whether to describe your comments as an "observation" or a "complaint". I have now been reminded that you did blame the alleged morgue-like state of the forum not on non-posters but on allegedly inane (but not explicitly named) posters.