Parole for convicted terror plotters

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/28/go-ahead-white-australia-eat-your-kebabs-while-you-remind-us-of-your-values

Your father is a stateless Palestinian man who is invited to Australia on a Sydney University scholarship.
Your mother escapes Nasser's Egypt to come to a properous, stable country.

Which way will you look at the country that has given your family so much?
Your options are:

a) Australia is a wonderful place that has given my family safety, opportunity and wealth.
Even better, it has allowed me, the child of muslim immigrants, to become a lawyer, sociologist and successful author.

b) Australia is a racist hellhole run by evil crackas.

If you choose option (b) please feel free to buy a ticket, get on a plane and f**k off.

I would've thought that he could answer A and still understand that B can be close to be being correct as well? I prefer he stays!

Really, Ken ? They seem fairly incompatible, no ? Would "a racist hellhole run by evil crackas" allow the " child of muslim immigrants, to become a lawyer, sociologist and successful author after giving her a scholarship to Sydney Uni ? You write that (B) May be "close to being correct0. Have you lived in many racist hellholes run by evil crackas and does this look close to those ?

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Your father is a stateless Palestinian man who is invited to Australia on a Sydney University scholarship.
Your mother escapes Nasser's Egypt to come to a properous, stable country.

Which way will you look at the country that has given your family so much?
Your options are:

a) Australia is a wonderful place that has given my family safety, opportunity and wealth.
Even better, it has allowed me, the child of muslim immigrants, to become a lawyer, sociologist and successful author.

b) Australia is a racist hellhole run by evil crackas.

If you choose option (b) please feel free to buy a ticket, get on a plane and f**k off.

I would've thought that he could answer A and still understand that B can be close to be being correct as well? I prefer he stays!

Really, Ken ? They seem fairly incompatible, no ? Would "a racist hellhole run by evil crackas" allow the " child of muslim immigrants, to become a lawyer, sociologist and successful author after giving her a scholarship to Sydney Uni ? You write that (B) May be "close to being correct0. Have you lived in many racist hellholes run by evil crackas and does this look close to those ?

I can understand hearing what our political leaders have to say about Sudanese people and how some "illegal boat people" are treated, I can see that some immigrants would feel that Australians can be racist and evil. Also we can be very helpful to some immigrants. I suppose it all depends on what you want to hear? I would like to think that answer A is right but I also understand that it is not always true.
Not sure I have communicated this well? Just put yourself as a Sudanese person and listen to our politicians and media and try to feel what they would, would you feel happy?

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I don't really have a mother.

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That's just silly, Stui. One can have the discussion without needing to be a walking one-man episode of All in the Family. For example, you can and do. You should expect it of other people, as well.

Thank you for that.

FWIW, Skids and I aren't that far apart in ideology, I just try to use the rapier whereas Skids favours the broadsword. My fall back has been the 12 pound sledgehammer, but I'm working on that.

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