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pietillidie wrote:
Wokko, do you really take this stuff seriously? The language could come from an extremist religion. It would make for a good lost scene from The Warriors.
The last thing we need is paramilitary groups fighting in our cities; but if we allow Antifa to violently oppose those they disagree with or prevent them from speaking then we're going to get a backlash. Already seeing it in the USA with street fights in Berkeley and Portland.
My philosophy and politics are far more Atlas Shrugged than Mein Kampf. Where I differ from the Libertarian or Objectivist viewpoint is immigration, but only insofar as we live in a welfare state where the population can vote themselves largesse. In the absence of welfare and with a small, minarchist Government I'd be inclined to more open immigration for work or trade but not permanent migration in large enough numbers to dilute the culture of host nations.
I find the notion of a small government, rabidly pro free speech, libertarian nationalist being a fascist so laughable I can't help but poke the idiots who suggest it.
That's just in one small town in Virginia. Even if they came from all over the state to attend, you're still looking at potentially tens of thousands of fellow travellers around the US as a whole. Of course we're still not dealing with massive numbers in a country of 320 million, but they're far from negligible, and they seem to be gaining credibility and support all the time.
"Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange
That actually matches better with the general feel I had, that the far right are generally far outnumbered by the counter protesters.
That doesn't mean that there's more or less far right than far left people though, the counter protests would attract people from a lot of disparate groups
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
It actually raises a different question, about the media in general and whether they are causing problems rather than just reporting on them. It may warrant a separate thread or may not.
Today we had a bunch of Green Mayors come out and slam the federal government and the media in general for their reporting of Sth Sudanese youths "misbehaving". The argument being it tilts public perception against the majority of well behaved Sth Sudanese.
How that relates to this is I saw a comment from someone referring to the far right rallies who said the KKK held a rally at her uni in the 70's, it got no attention in the media, so they weren't given oxygen to enhance their platform.
Fast forward to recent times, a little blonde Canadian female, quite cute and very right wing, came to Australia for a paid speaking tour. She hit the media almost immediately when the Vic Police allegedly hit her with a bill of around $60k in anticipation of the resources they'd need to expend on dealing with expected protesters.
Sure enough, protesters showed up , blocked the Hume Hwy, with their numbers (significantly out numbering the attendees) and it was all over the media.
Without the threat and actuality of the protest, most Australians would have never heard of this woman or her message. The protesters and resulting media coverage gave her far more oxygen than she deserved. People who would never have heard of her would have googled her name, checked out her Wiki profile and some will have then gone to her youtube channel and became followers (I did the first 2, I didn't view her youtube channel)
So in the first instance, these numbat protesters are actually giving oxygen to the very things they protest against. The far right activists love the attention.
What would happen if one of these far right groups got a permit to do a march down Swanston st one Sunday and there was no counter protest. Would it make the media? Would they be largely ignored by the people in the city? Would their cause be fed oxygen or deprived of it?
In the current day, the news cycle is not what it was 40 years ago when you had 30 minute evening news on the 3 or 4 FTA channels you could get and daily newspapers. Now it's a 24/7 business with a voracious appetite for content that will be click bait.
Media coverage can raise awareness of a good cause, which is helpful, and raise awareness of a bad cause, which isn't helpful. At what point do they create (or exacerbate) the problem rather than just reporting on it?
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
