Liberal leadership declared vacant.

[Pies4shaw]

It took them 74 years to declare their leadership "vacant"? I guess electing Dutton to the position (when it happens, as it almost certainly now will) will be a similar, albeit indirect, statement.

[Jezza]

Turnbull is dead man walking. As we've seen previously, we know how this will end.

Gillard survived a leadership spill in February 2012 and March 2013, but was ousted in June 2013. Abbott survived a leadership in February 2015, but was ousted in September 2015 and the same thing will happen to Turnbull. It's just a matter of when, but I'm certain he won't be leading the party when the next federal election is held.

I wouldn't blame Shorten for grinning like a cheshire cat today. He can see the prime ministership waiting for him now.

[Jezza]

Turnbull is despised by the Conservative right, I know a few planning a scorched Earth vote for Shorten just to get rid of Turnbull. Still think Dutton would be better off waiting until the election and becoming Opposition Leader.

I'm certainly in the camp of never voting Liberal again until Turnbull is ousted and snakes like Bishop and Pyne are rid of from the party.

Most of those who have abandoned the Liberals will likely vote Australian Conservatives, One Nation or Liberal Democrats.

[Jezza]

^ And I'm kind of fine with that. I supported him in the initial leadership contest with Shorten, and have never liked Bill much, but honestly Albo just seems like more of the same brain-numbing robotic Labor leadership, and really can't see what he brings to the table. I'm okay with the idea of Shorten being PM now.

Shorten is popular with the party room, but ordinary party members prefer Albanese.

I think if Albo was installed as Labor leader, they'd win in a landslide.

[Jezza]

Turnbull, Dutton, Shorten etc etc... they're all gutless maggots!

We need a Trumpinator kinda guy... but ...... we got shit.

We have no competent leaders coming through, Skids.

A massive leadership vacuum is engulfing Canberra at the moment.

[David]

[Jezza]

Abbott and his little band of gollum's have just shot the LNP in the stomach.

Turnbull and his cronies shot the LNP in the stomach when they knifed a sitting Prime Minister three years ago, essentially making them indistinguishable from the previous Labor (Rudd/Gillard/Rudd) governments. I never liked Rudd, but I thought what Gillard did to him was a disgrace as well and there was something satisfying about seeing Rudd dish out revenge against her.

Turnbull crapped on his base and alienated many voters of the party, and ostracised the conservative factions of his party to essentially lead a Labor-lite government. He even declared that the Liberal Party was "NEVER" a conservative party which reinforced the growing schism within the party. Menzies would be rolling his grave to see what Turnbull has done to the party.

Turnbull tried to get pre-selection with Labor years ago and wanted to become Kim Beazley's shadow finance minister during Howard's second term (1998-2001), but was turned away and later jumped ship with the Liberals. He belongs in the right wing factions of the Labor Party than in the Liberal Party. Most party supporters can see this and are therefore disillusioned to have him leading the party.

I can't wait to see him ousted.

[HAL]

[Jezza]

[Jezza]

Not sure if I heard correctly, but is there a possibility that another leadership spill could occur on Thursday?

[David]

^ That has been discussed. Either then or (more likely, I think) second week of September when Parliament resumes. Wouldn't be surprised if Dutton wants some time to make sure he has the numbers.

[Jezza]

I think you're right about September being a more realistic timeframe.

Would coincide closely with the 3rd anniversary since Turnbull knifed Abbott.

[stui magpie]

[stui magpie]

Abbott and his little band of gollum's have just shot the LNP in the stomach.

Turnbull and his cronies shot the LNP in the stomach when they knifed a sitting Prime Minister three years ago, essentially making them indistinguishable from the previous Labor (Rudd/Gillard/Rudd) governments. I never liked Rudd, but I thought what Gillard did to him was a disgrace as well and there was something satisfying about seeing Rudd dish out revenge against her.

Turnbull crapped on his base and alienated many voters of the party, and ostracised the conservative factions of his party to essentially lead a Labor-lite government. He even declared that the Liberal Party was "NEVER" a conservative party which reinforced the growing schism within the party. Menzies would be rolling his grave to see what Turnbull has done to the party.

Turnbull tried to get pre-selection with Labor years ago and wanted to become Kim Beazley's shadow finance minister during Howard's second term (1998-2001), but was turned away and later jumped ship with the Liberals. He belongs in the right wing factions of the Labor Party than in the Liberal Party. Most party supporters can see this and are therefore disillusioned to have him leading the party.

I can't wait to see him ousted.

Despite labels, I probably sit in between you and David. I agree with you on some things and him on others. Abbott had to go and I was glad to see Turnbull get a chance, but Abbott and his cronies never let him lead.

[Jezza]

Number of PMs in each decade since Federation:

1900s = 7
1910s = 5
1920s = 3
1930s = 4
1940s = 6
1950s = 1
1960s = 4
1970s = 4
1980s = 2
1990s = 3
2000s = 2
2010s = 5 (could be 7 if Dutton ousts Turnbull and Shorten is elected next year)