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I don't give a flying what the do but this is costing me money through rubbish exchange rates. Arseholes.
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Yesterday at the same time the Liberal leadership was blowing up, my nephew (who is in the army) posted a message that he was part of a group - Tank, AV, howitzer guns, that rolled into Canberra. He was quite amused at the looks he was getting from the locals 😀
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He's got the 43 names, but they include people who don't support Dutton but see the spill now as having to go ahead.

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"... not incapable of sitting". Nothing about reasoning capability, of course.
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^

Anything about walking and chewing gum?
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The solicitors general's opinion does not confirm or deny Duttons ineligibility to be a sitting MP. The undertakers undertakings look politically damaging for the undertaker. It needs to go to the high court.
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watt price tully wrote:The solicitors general's opinion does not confirm or deny Duttons ineligibility to be a sitting MP. The undertakers undertakings look politically damaging for the undertaker. It needs to go to the high court.
Find a lawyer who will ever say 100% to anything. It's always an educated opinion and there's always caveats.

Here's the full decision. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... utton.html

My summary would be Dutton is not ineligible based on known facts, but there is other information not provided that may possibly impact that (unknown so can't say) and you can't predict how the High Court will rule on some of these things. So, there is risk. Not enough for the Libs to refer him, but if he wins the leadership you can guarantee Labor will keep pushing it.
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Dark Beanie wrote:Yesterday at the same time the Liberal leadership was blowing up, my nephew (who is in the army) posted a message that he was part of a group - Tank, AV, howitzer guns, that rolled into Canberra. He was quite amused at the looks he was getting from the locals 😀
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Apparently someone threw some bricks through Dutton's office windows last night.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-24/v ... d/10159424

Lead suspects are the Socialist Alternative, Antifa, Turnbull loyalists, disaffected local constituents, Labor groupies, general hoodlums, Liberal Party members, refugee advocates, grumpy pensioners and pretty much every single other Australian citizen.
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Meeting at 12:20. Draw your weapons!
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stui magpie wrote:
watt price tully wrote:The solicitors general's opinion does not confirm or deny Duttons ineligibility to be a sitting MP. The undertakers undertakings look politically damaging for the undertaker. It needs to go to the high court.
Find a lawyer who will ever say 100% to anything. It's always an educated opinion and there's always caveats.

Here's the full decision. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... utton.html

My summary would be Dutton is not ineligible based on known facts, but there is other information not provided that may possibly impact that (unknown so can't say) and you can't predict how the High Court will rule on some of these things. So, there is risk. Not enough for the Libs to refer him, but if he wins the leadership you can guarantee Labor will keep pushing it.
You're right about the 100% point, in most (but not 100% of) cases.

As to your summary, the really critical thing is that Stevo accepts that the legal (as distinct from factual) position is not clear (see, in particular, his third proposition in paragraph 9).

Otherwise, I would respectfully point out that Stevo's advice is just that - it's not a decision. This is worth bearing in mind, especially when there are other views being floated abroad by more highly-regarded lawyers.
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